The Horde vs Alliance population ratio will not gona change until Blizzard not "nerf" the racials?

In raids. Blizzard may fix the dungeon qeue times with crossfaction but cant fix the guild problems. In Eu english almost 600+ more horde guilds finish the raid than ally :confused: .
Picking things is all about racials?

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idk what you on about i just like blood elfs and 60% of the horde is blood elfs :joy: what they need to do is give alliance a cute slim owo race like blood elfs

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Give Day Elfs :smiley:

They made the Alliance racials stronger and overal they are better. None of this was enough to persuade players to abandon the side with more players.

I am curious to see how much of an impact cross faction will have. I know lots of guilds now have several players playing the opposite faction races in raids. If Blizzard would actually give cross faction guilds then the last barrier would be removed.

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I have to disagree. We’ve seen guilds transferring from Alliance to Horde because of racialls. Right now horde racials are top for most PvE content anyways. Only Dwarf Stone form is somewhat help in PvE (and PvE is dominant in wow). Goblin jump is a big help for escaping ground effects, orcs have their 2 min CD which increases damage directly, trolls have the haste buff, highmountain aoe stun is perfect for m+ big trash mob interrupts, maghar has 120+ secondary stat buff , zandalari have passive big buff for a week. I am sorry, but for raiding and m+, Horde is just way too superior.

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No we’ve seen them transferring because that’s where the bigger proportion of the playerbase is.

Guilds have to recruit, the pool of guilds and the pool of players is simply larger on Horde.

It hasn’t been a racial issue for years. Making the Alliance racials stronger did not create a stampede for the Alliance.

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Aint it more like the masses follows what the top does? I dont know the reason why top guilds changed to horde but ofc when the top does something the masses always follows. Be it on whats meta for classes in raids, m+ and pvp it always sets a standard in every other lvl of play.

There might have been 1 thing that lead the top to change but it leads to several reasons for the rest to change. Some of what Puny explained but that was a side effect from when the top changed, not the reason they did.

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It’s quite funny now cross faction is a thing, we’ve seen a rise in Dwarf M plus teams for example.

this!

let’s not look at the recent situation (last 10 years?), let’s remember how it was in the past

and consequently

imho at that time probably the elimination of racial advantages could have brought to a positive outcome, perhaps transforming them into purely cosmetic effects, even if I find that the latter must always be available to everyone, without distinction

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the problem is that a lot of people who already made the switch paid money to do so and the people who are now horde wether through faction change or if they always were have 0 reason to go to alliance because no one’s there.
The racial side of this debate has been dead for several expansions, that said, I wouldn’t mind their deactivation in competitive content whatsoever, racials shouldn’t be gamechanging imo.
Currently, the unbalanced population ratio is a self fulfilling prophecy

No.

Picking a faction for people who want to raid is a matter of; which faction will give me the biggest player pool to play with. Which faction will make it easier to get into a raiding guild.

And that faction has been the horde for years now.
It’s not about the racials anymore. Maybe for the 1%, but I’m pretty tired of the game being altered for their sakes.

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And the bigger proportion of the player base is horde because…?

A lot of people PAID A LOT OF MONEY to transfer to the horde. They’re just not willing to pay even more to transfer back to Alliance.

There’re other reasons than racial currently at play.

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The Alliance literally has blood elves with a different racial. Void Elves can be customised to look like High Elves to such a degree that, other than eye colour, the two races are practically indistinguishable.

Didn’t help.

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I am so tired of it, the racials do not matter for the majority of playerbase except the top 1% (the actual pro raiders).
I don’t know why everyone uses the racials as main point of horde being more dominant but it’s probably the effect of everyone just following the meta even tho it does not apply to them.

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Meta slavery is real. Very real. People just do what the meta says and it really doesn’t matter whether it’s a good decision or not. Often times they don’t even understand why it’s the meta and fail to play to the strengths of the decision they made due to the meta.

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Yes. 1% players play in a specific way, and then guides are made for the rest of the players based on 1% playstyle. Youtube videos with tier lists for M+ are based on the highest keys, like 31, 32, and we know that almost nobody can do 32s, but still, the guides made for semi-casuals (who deeply believe that they are actually hardcore players) are based on top players. Every guide has ā€œbest racesā€ tab too.
The wow community is very competitive-driven right now. People from all IOs, from all arena ranks, and all raid difficulties will try to parody the top 0.1% player base. Cuz they are pros, surely they know why Destro is better than Demo, right?

Yeah it makes no sense claiming racials are the issue now

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The results are irrelevant. The guide says Orc is the best PvP class, and I am gonna pick it. Nobody’s gonna pick side because of simcraft. And I am also sure there’s reason why right now this chart is like this. It probably has to do something with the specs they play. This chart proves nothing.
There is reason why there’s such huge disbalance between factions, and right now, racials and sheep mentality of the players seems to be the obvious reasons. If you have other suspects, please present them.

In fairness to the guide Orc is the best PvP race in many cases and you really don’t need any skills whatsoever to take advantage of it…

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