(2) The other guy decided to “teach him a lesson” and ruined his key, doing a toxic thing.
(If instead of deciding to “teach him a lesson”, the other guy went to the forum like the OP did, the thread would have been about toxic elitism of the OP, deservedly.)
(3) The OP did not like it and went to the forum to complain. Did not get the response they wanted. Amazingly enough, people pointed out to the OP that he / she was part of the problem. Who’d have thought. ))
(4) The OP did not like the response on the forum and went to complain to Reddit. (This is the entire reason I am writing this post - I am reading Reddit from time to time and when I decided to do so today, there were threads - yes, multiple - discussing this incident here. Thanks, OP.) The response on Reddit was not great either.
The take-away: OP is a toxic elitist and a drama queen. Eagerly awaiting for the rehashes of this story to appear on Instagram, Twitter and what have you. To the same mixed response, obviously. ))
Thanks for sharing this detail, I looked the topic up on reddit out of curiosity, every single reply saying OP deserved it got downvoted to oblivion, just saying
Did this once myself. I applied with my hunter to a +10 (i was pve-lvel 245), got decline. Sent a PM asking why i got declined, got reply “no fkn fagot survival hunters". I went on an alt with ilvl 230, got invited, started the run, said "sorry no fkn fagot groups” and left.
In the reasonable world with constructive thoughts. How would you want to see LFG selection and invites go? Because honestly; for me this game is really difficult. And i expect that for other people too, maybe my wrong assumption. But i would definitely not invite myself for a +15 on an alt without experience.
I am not seeing this as elitist. I would wreck the key if i would have been invited. It is hard content and a 1 try challenge.
I’m pretty much done with this thread now, the main reason I put it up was more of a cautionary tale to be honest, to share the knowledge that I’ll now be thinking twice before inviting a good player from the same server as somebody I recently ignored.
The reality is, everybody who is calling this post elitist is just misguided, I don’t, nor have I ever considered myself good at this game, I just want to finish my keys and get the weekly rewards.
However, I am not going to take people who have not proven they are able to do this with me, it is not my responsibility to teach or take chances on people I don’t know.
Why is it that all these bleeding hearts low scoring players who just need to be given a shot aren’t pushing their own keys with likeminded people? Simply because they cannot.
If the opposition here is so hard done by, by the idea that people don’t have time to take chances on untested players in dungeons then I don’t know what to say to you.
Why don’t you message some gladiators and ask them to take you into arena? You could potentially compete at their level, they are being elitist by not bringing you?
Why don’t you go for a 10/10 mythic clear with echo? You have gear, you could deal damage to a boss, so why aren’t they taking you?
I like helping people in WoW, but it’s not my responsibility to do everything for them, and that’s a mindset I won’t change.
to answer this - if it as up to me i would start with remaking the keystone system into what we have in torgast now.
this way people could choose whiever dungeon they want and wouldnt treat keystones as sacred objects.
it would also mean that is things go south people can just - ok nothign happend we can try again without player X
this would mean much more people woudl be much more wiling to give people chance as even if things are problematic they can just remake group …
no keystones depletions , no lowering itlv , no randomnes
you completed difficulty X ? you unlock difficulty X +1
this would be a good start
then i would change score - non timed keys dont give any score. but still give max loot. timing key ? gives score
and finally i would make random matchmakign up to m+10 ( i think that +10 is good fair “cut off” and where most people stop m+ anyway unless they go for KSM and where most groups are basily random matchmaking anyway as so few people do that that they take anyone they can anyway ) based on that score and number of runned keys (so that people who run like +100 timed keys meet other people who run 100+ keys and match the experience while others could progress if they chose to in random non elitest content - they are unable to clear it ? its ok then they can manualy make group and learn )
those are the changes i would imidiately implement if i was dev.
it would imidiately lower the levels of toxicity and elitism .
I am not agreeing because i am playing this game in a different way, but those are reasonable thoughts and i know where they are coming from. So +1 for this.
Yup. Find it a bit hilarious that some people are salty and cant accept a decline. So they wreck the key in some petty vengence?
Sure, sow distrust in the pug scene and people will be even less inclined to do m+ with pugs. I personally dont care. 90% of my runs are with friends and guildies anyway…
So by all means. Keep wrecking those keys. I am sure that it will help you get an invite in the long term.
He did not invite someones alt because it did not fit what he wanted for the group he wanted, thats it.
How is he the bad guy in this scenario? The idiot greifing his key should have moved on and found another group but decided that it was personal and killed his key out of some imaginary vendetta.
And yet none of those have convinced me he did anything wrong, all i’ve seen are people salty that they are not gurranted a invite because they signed up for a key.
