The Nerfing of classes and m+

would it be wrong to say that leaderboards score and IO Has an unfair advantage if you played a op spec that got nerfed.

Imagine a group with meta classes and they get nerfed later, score still remains the same, but the dmg they did in the run is no longer possible, how can one take wow seriouse at all.

and this game tries to be Esport, broken classes,Tier sets RNG, and underpowered classes.

Wow is a circus, i know for many its hard to understand what im trying to say, and i guess im sorry for my bad english.

Imagine a game that was actually tuned before it released, i know blizzard are using free testers, and those testers are normally from guilds that wanna find exploits that benefit them, but wouldnt it be nice to have actually paid testers who actually try to test if game is tuned correctly?

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It does not just show you did damage, but most of the time, they also show they know what to do. That experience isn’t taken away by a class nerf.

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No amount of balancing would ever make it perfectly balanced at the top. People keep complaining about balancing but doesn’t realise as long as we are playing different characters with different kits everything can never be balanced. Only games were perfect balance exists are games where everyone is playing the exact same kit with the exact same resources. You can complete all +20 with any class + high end other content but if you want to compete at the absolute highest level of course you have to play whatever has the 5% edge.

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i dont think u get my point at all.

The group pre nerf lets just say a number for the sake of. total group dmg 160k dps.

After nerf total group dmg 120k dps with same comp. this is an example.

M+ is timed based, whats doable and not is based on DPS.

I hope your not worried about people beating your keys already
 ilvl and correct stats will make groups push higher numbers then they are now.

They are not nerfing classes that much. It is closer to 160k to 150k.

These people usually change to the new META anyways.

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not my keys, my keys are trash atm, i got some 20s, but thats bad. i played bm and i had to learn a new spec and i lack tier bonus. im not in a spot where i can do ‘‘decent’’ keys atm.

However there is ppl who are at a spot doing decent keys atm running comps that will be nerfed and i guess if u werent lucky or played the right class at that time, ur a loser.

I really despise this take, that it doesn’t matter until you do content above X level. That’s not how any of this works. Maybe on paper it does, but in the game it doesn’t.
“Oh, but this only applies to you if you play top 100 CE.”

No, it affect’s any level of play, because people look at the meta, what high end players do and replicate it on lower difficulties. People are running MDI routes, tactics, doing RWF strats etc, even if they don’t need it for their +10 key.

Sure, you can do +15 with any group setup, but people will still look at the meta and people who don’t play FOTM specs are going to have a harder time.

Blizzard said that they do not plan to nerf any classes in the near future. As classes rarely get nerfed in mid season (and they are usually nerfed due to pvp), I don’t think this should be a concern.

Most people that realy care about it just multi class anyway, one thing gets nerfed they already got another class redy to push higher .

Then there are those that stick to one even if its bad, and they either find a way how it works , or they dont and are stuck at some “maximum” for rest of season , or minimal push because of overal ilvl and better stats etc


Oh yeah, you were the one who complained that 1 out of your 3 dps specs isn’t meta.

they already doing it, did u see the druid tank nerf? i the tier parts. having beartank with 4p atm, is like having a extra dps in grp but his not the dps his the tank!!!

We knew about the set nerfs for a few days now, but the official blue post came with the buffs. When they announced the druid nerf was when they won’t nerf more classes.

At least that is what I remember, my memory is not exactly perfect.

Bm hasnt really been good whole sl, just ok, but right now its so bad, if u had a clue at all u wouldnt even make fun of it.

Seems like in the previous season BM was the 2nd most picked ranged spec.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-sl-2-post-915/all/world/leaderboards#role=ranged-dps:mode=unique:minMythicLevel=20:maxMythicLevel=9

And in the current season they seems to be pretty sought after as well. But sure, BM is bad.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-sl-3/all/world/leaderboards#role=ranged-dps:mode=unique:minMythicLevel=15:maxMythicLevel=99

if ur not a class that is welcome in the highest keys, u are infact bad.

So far 15 people were able to time the highest keys. 13 specs overall. That alone does not make the rest of the specs bad


sorting a key by +15 and up. just wow. wow.

what are u even saying bro, if they were good they would been in the highest keys, those who are not are bad. good is nr1. below is worse and worse.