What kind of players you attract that you have these problems?
average ones ?
i gotta admit i love this new system . thanks to it i hit KSH tonight .
people are absolutely ruthelss with those abandoned votes and i soo love it .
bad first pull - people hit that abandon as soon as they can
wipe on first boss ? people hit abandon instantly 100 % guaranteed :0
speeds up stuff so much now that people no longer are afraid of leaving - have seen only once people voting no - 2 mintues later after wipe on trash - insta abandoned
loooove it
the absolute bonus is that the ones suffering - will be most likely the same people who complained about leavers :d
They always were.
Oh noooo.
Anyway…
Reminds me League of legends.
Yep, it’s called “hostaging” and it’s LITERALLY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS now.
bad system
I hate leavers, but I need to clarify my use of the word “hate”: I dislike seeing them leave when the keys are still on time, and yes, there were people like that. So yeah, I wanted a preventive system for that.
To me, marking people as deserters/leavers while they are queuing up for the keys, making them visibly seen as leavers, was a sufficient measure, but this voting thing is so bad as far as I have experienced.
I’ve recently gotten myself out of a dungeon, where I felt like I had been kept as a hostage. It was just a +2 key, and the key is depleted. Can you imagine? But why?
Probably they were new to it or extra casual, I don’t know. They’ve had no idea about routes and mechanics at all. I am alright with it. I’ve explained as much as I can. Pinged what is necessary, etc., but after the 20th death, I’ve seen enough. It was untimely, it was 03:30 am at the moment for me, and I had kindly expressed myself. Started this “voting,” and it immediately got declined. I said, OK. Moved on, 8 more deaths are in. We weren’t even on the 2nd boss. 28 deaths on a +2 key… I’ve explained myself again, kindly. (Well this time it was kindly "as much as I can) Started another vote, declined.
28 deaths
+2 key
Can’t get out because the other 4 people do not give a damn about it. 3rd DPS was even doing less damage overall than a tank who had no idea what he was doing.
I am not proud of what I did, but I wished them a hearty good luck and started to fish in the middle of the instance. And they were shouting at me as they were going to report me. If it is what it’s going to be, I am off. This is bull manure…
lol i would insta leave idc deserter debuff
when timer runs out you can just leave without being marked as leaver though .
problem with the vote is that owner of key has extra vote - if the vote would be simpel 3 out of 5 then we wouldnt have those problems .
Mate, an informative debuff after leaving several(!!!) times is always better than getting reported for sabotaging…
Always leave if you refuse to play otherwise.
Exactly.
What is ridicules from players is the expectation that joining up with random people you never met before will yield the best gameplay experience.
It is 3 votes if the leader agrees with disbanding, as their vote has two votes power
but its sooo much more satysfying :d
from what i see - in 10s the system works like wonders - all votes go through no problem
the quality of groups on weekend is much lower so people just vote abndon so they dont waste time with 3/4 of dps doing liek 5mln aoe

the quality of groups on weekend is much lower
And Tuesdays:)
But yeah, around 10s the votes have the same effect as before; we’re not gonna time it, we don’t need a weekly, so we just quit.
No one takes you hostage tbh. I left couple of s…t shows and gained the title. I get invited regardless of being flagged. Only people who are punished by the system is the whiners who wanted it in the first place. I love it.

No one takes you hostage tbh. I left couple of s…t shows and gained the title. I get invited regardless of being flagged. Only people who are punished by the system is the whiners who wanted it in the first place. I love it.
some people try though - even though most of votes go thgough immediately - some try to held others hostage to bad runs.
instead going afk etc - jsut wipe them coupel of times - dont comment - dont afk etc becauser then they can fake report you out of spite - jjust make sure group wipes in silence - works like wonders and eventually everyone votes yes
after all - they are clearly ok with playing bad / dying repeatedly etc - so they wont complain about wipes
Yep… esp. cause the KEYHOLDER has automatically 2 votes, so thats an auto 2 nos, now boosted bonobo just needs another buddy and eh voilá you have 3 nos 2 yeses. Hostage complete.