The next patch has been leaked

[Blackbane-chromaggus]

dun dun derrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Vinnem-eonar]

lol you know if they returned the Arfitact weapons (fat chance lol) they would just take them away again, right? xD

[Barry-the-shatar]

@Plamcia-draenor

Please no no more artifact weapons, stop doing challanges everywhere. I come from work and I want relax don’t do chores that make me more deppresive every time when I fail.

it is perfectly okay for there to be content in a game that not everyone does, just because it exists it doesnt mean that you have to do it.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Hate it. Just close that place. Jailer defeated, tower closed. Seems to be the best course of action imo.

if you dont like it dont do it, its very simple, just because you dont like something doesnt mean it should be removed from the game for those that do like it, other wise there would be literally 0 content in the game because there is at least 1 person that hates everything in the game,

@Synrelia-kazzak

Could of been believable until that point.

this aged well. literally 10 hours later there is an official blue post saying its being removed in 9.1.5

[Synrelia-kazzak]

@Barry-the-shatar

this aged well. literally 10 hours later there is an official blue post saying its being removed in 9.1.5

Least I am famous for that now

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Barry-the-shatar

if you dont like it dont do it, its very simple, just because you dont like something doesnt mean it should be removed from the game for those that do like it, other wise there would be literally 0 content in the game because there is at least 1 person that hates everything in the game,

I knowwwwww.
And I don’t actually want it removed. I was being dramatic.
What I DON’T want though is for nice and cool rewards to be put into that place because then I might feel ‘forced’ to do it. I want it to be ‘just for fun’ (for those people who actually legitimately think that horrible place is fun).

[Plamcia-draenor (Plamcia)]

We have enought challanges. Have you done Halls of Fame? No, you are not even 1/10 Mythic. You Don’t have Gladiator Title, Still I don’t see m+ 20 on your profile. You need more challanges when you don’t even do half of them?
You probably don’t even have each covenant cosmetic item. Because when I see your mount colection I see casual who do only one thing and don’t care about rest of game.

[Krugh-dentarg]

@Blackbane-chromaggus

Redeem or Kill Anduin

What? You can choose between the 2?

[Sungyun-the-shatar]

so how do i equip sylvanas bow and arcifact weapon at same time ?

[Jóôló-drakthul]

@Sungyun-the-shatar

so how do i equip sylvanas bow and arcifact weapon at same time ?

sylvannas bow will be completely useless in next patch trust me

[Barry-the-shatar]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

What I DON’T want though is for nice and cool rewards to be put into that place because then I might feel ‘forced’ to do it. I want it to be ‘just for fun’ (for those people who actually legitimately think that horrible place is fun).

but that could go for literally any content in the game, a good example is that based on that idea that they could never put good rewards behind anything PvP related, because there are a hell of a lot of people that hate it, and the same goes for PvE as well

with that logic they just wouldn’t be able to put any interesting or cool rewards into the game.

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Barry-the-shatar

with that logic they just wouldn’t be able to put any interesting or cool rewards into the game.

Of course you can. Just have alternatives.
Different colored gear, is such an example.

I probably wasn’t clear enough with my statement though. I wouldn’t want any EXCLUSIVE rewards from that place.

[Sacellum-draenor]

@Plamcia-draenor

don’t care about rest of game.

What’s wrong with not caring about things you don’t find fun?

[Plamcia-draenor (Plamcia)]

The every one shoud stop care about wow because msot of things are not fun anymore. Thats why people leavling. You loved game but is nto fun because of stupid decisions, so you shoud not care?
You also don’t care if something is not good in real life too? You shoud care about game being fun because then it will be more fun.

[Barry-the-shatar]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

I probably wasn’t clear enough with my statement though. I wouldn’t want any EXCLUSIVE rewards from that place.

but then my argument still stands, because the mount for KSM is exclusive for only dungeon achievements, and the same can be said for all of the gladiator achievements, so it still stands that it would be very difficult to make any content or add any ineteresting rewards,

it also makes sense to put a reward in for those who are able to complete content and want to do these kinds of things.

[Sacellum-draenor]

Uh, what are you even talking about?

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Barry-the-shatar

it also makes sense to put a reward in for those who are able to complete content and want to do these kinds of things.

But you’re comparing content which has been a part of the game since day 1 with content that’ll become obsolete when Shadowlands is over. I just don’t think you can treat these things the same.

A reward, sure. But not unique stuff. Some cool recolors will suffice imo.
Or, if they insist on making it unique, give players an alternative way to earn it.

But this is just my opinion. It’s fine we disagree.

[Barry-the-shatar]

one thing that might be worth adding to this though is that there is already rewards in game that are specific to world content, there is an endless slue of toys, mounts pets and all other sorts of thing that cant be gathered by completing dungeons, raids and PvP, so its not like there isnt anything there for people that only play for the world content,

but there is also the point that the unique rewards in the game are generally put in for some kind of accomplishment, so there are some unique rewards for meta achiveemnts in world content, like the crab mount from nazjatar and other such things, so it goes both ways really, its also worth adding generally that content such as dungeons and raids are far more complex and difficult that open world content, meaning that some of the more unique rewards being only attainable through them would make sense,

i have seen endless posts here from people asking for the mage tower mogs to be brought back, and thats one thing i would not like the idea of at all, the entire idea of them was to be earned at the time while it was a challenge, and then them to be removed, it just makes more sense, and is also perfectly okay for some rewards in game to not be attainable for everyone, there are plenty in game like the 30 or so galdiator mounts that have been rewarded since BC and i think personally that its fine that there are rewards for content i didnt complete, and i dont think i should be able to just get them easily now, considering that there is a lot of work that has gone into achieving it by people that unlocked them at the time.

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Barry-the-shatar

and is also perfectly okay for some rewards in game to not be attainable for everyone

And on that we must agree to disagree.

@Barry-the-shatar

i think personally that its fine that there are rewards for content i didnt complet

Sure, but wouldn’t it be nice if there was an alternative for those rewards?

@Barry-the-shatar

and i dont think i should be able to just get them easily now

Who says it has to be easy? I never mentioned that.

@Barry-the-shatar

considering that there is a lot of work that has gone into achieving it by people that unlocked them at the time.

Yeah I don’t care about that. That means absolutely nothing to me.
People who did old mythic raids had to work hard for that gear, and now we can just solo that stuff. Does that matter? No, not in the slightest.

[Darkvil-nagrand]

No the next patch has not been leaked, but for sure someone want attention.

[Barry-the-shatar]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Sure, but wouldn’t it be nice if there was an alternative for those rewards?

sure it would be nice, but that doesnt mean they should actually put it in, one of the best things about the older content in the game is that there was some exclusivity, if everyone has the same thing then nothing is special, take ashbringer, it used to be something important because it was an exclusive mog from the original nax raid or something like that, the in legion literally any idiot who created a paladin got given it for free, meaning that the original mog now means literally nothing.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Who says it has to be easy? I never mentioned that.

as someone who generally happily admits all they do is take part in world content and does like to do raids, dungeons and PvP it being easy is kind of implied honestly.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Yeah I don’t care about that. That means absolutely nothing to me.
People who did old mythic raids had to work hard for that gear, and now we can just solo that stuff. Does that matter? No, not in the slightest.

if anything that does prove a point though, because a lot of the more exclusive rewards like the mounts and such that drop in mythic raids are lowered from a 100% to a 1% drop rate when the content is not current anymore, meaning that its not just as simple as bulldozing your way through the content and getting it instantly.

its also worth pointing out that you may not care about it, but there are a lot of people out there that do care, i put in a lot of effort with my team to get the keystone master achievement for both this and last season, i wouldnt be too happy if they just put it on a vendor for people to buy for valor or gold, because it kinda of detracts from the effort and work that was put in for people to earn it.