Then you can stop.
Compare Karabor to the bladespire Fortress. Alliance bias is everywhere. This needs to stop.
Iâm starting to feel you just prefer the Alliance but itâs too ashamed to admit it.
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Up for Debate. I favour Orgrimmar over Stormwind. Ironforge beats undercity tho. Dazarâalor is vastly better than Boralus (although from a âIm lazyâ pov boralus is way better in regards of its NPC placements). Darnassus smells like beep. Gilneas is still in ruins despite lorewise sacked by the Alliance prior to BFA. Thunderbluff is fine. Its just forsaken because of where it is located.
âtyrande my loooooveâ. Tyrande and Malfurion (especially the latter) are absolutely horrendous. Malfurion is still pretty much the same he was during WCIII. A naive beep under the heels of his love. Didnt even bother to admit he was wrong about illidan. Even giving him one final blow after Illidan decided to jail Sargeras for all eternity. Absolutely horrendous character.
Genn had some character development aye. Hes not that as rage consumed as he used to be. Anduin is a given since he is the future leader of the army of the light (canon). Mekkatorque had some development but nothing worth mentioning really. Velen had some during Legion and is now once again forgotten and back in Draenei lore limbo (mainly because hes too broken lorewise). Jaina had a lot of development yes. Magni is universally hated. The council of three hammers is easily forgotten since they spend most of their times in that throneroom of theirs.
Clarification please.
Horde has 11 zones. 12 if we include Silverpine. 13 if we include Tirisfal despite Undercity being plagued. One of that being the Sunwell, which is way way more important than anything the Alliance possesses aside from the Exodar (which we will never see in action because Velen refuses to go bonkers with his Draenei technology)
Alliance has 15 (and with that i include the likes of Gilneas, destroyed Darkshore and destroyed Arathi). Which is by numbers more aye. Whether these zones are way more important is highly up for debate however.
Depends on ones PoV.
Clarification.
Well duh. The Alliance consists of races that are on Azeroth since god knows how long and have been essential in dealing with a lot of its major problems (old gods (black empire), Legion.) long before Warcraft 1 and one of their races is a race from the cosmos that was already the peak of the galaxy mortal race wise. Also the backstory of the Humans however isnt really kind to them given what they are technically are (saying that would ironically net me a forum vacation)
The Horde has an alien race that was mainly hunter and gatherer. The Tauren arent much different. Same goes for the Vulpera. The Trolls are however the oldest mortal race in existence on Azeroth. They ARE azeroth. The Blood Elfs are similar to the nelfs but unlike them actually evolved. The Zandalari are trolls so read above (they are also the oldest tribe). Goblins rival the Gnomes easily (especially now with a proper tradeprince in command instead of gallywix who had the brain activity of a dead tortoise). The Forsaken are Humans. The Nightborne, just like the Blood Elfs, have a vast Civilization that easily outlcasses the Alliance aside from the Draenei.
We already had that. Especially now with the Council where every race leader is equal rather than following the obviously non working Warchief system.
No. Improve Orgrimmar? Yes. An entire new style? No. Also the Orcs are still âsavagesâ.
The Gurubashi are nearly wiped out and the last remaining of them are not well spoken to about the Horde. It makes no sense for them to Ally with us. Also they are mentally broken because of their Hakkar doings.
Will NEVER join forces with the Horde as long as the Belfs are part of it. Never. The belfs are their mortal enemy and the Horde has laid siege on them during the second (and third) sacking of ZulâAman.
Magatha and anyone loyal to her is exiled by Baine. This part of the Grimtotem will not rejoin the Horde. The ones that remained loyal to Baine are still part of the Horde. They however posses a population not worth mentioning.
Were already absorbed into the Horde by Garrosh nearly 10 years ago.
Already covered this in a another thread. The fel horde disbanded, and all of its clans either vanished or were found not healable. The Shattered Hand clan is already partly part of the Horde while some are independent (like being part of the Rogue Order Hall) as are the Dragonmaw. Bleeding Hollow loyal to Kilroggs son are part of the Horde through him and the Magâhar. Everyone else has been wiped out by us.
The bonechewer clan has been wiped out and if there are unknown survivors they are part of the Fel Orcs. Who have no cure other than death. The potential Cure that was being worked on by azaârez was never finished and as it looked like an utter failure.
The Laughing skull are either wiped out or status unknown. However they are not well liked by the rest of the Horde given their history as a clan and people. At best some of them would be recruited (if still alive) and used as an force like the Deathstalkers/SI7/etc
Remnants of the Shadowmoon clan became Fel Orcs and by that were killed by us or imprisoned by the Wardens.
The Thunderlord clan is no more. Finding remaining members âloyalâ to this clan would be near impossible. The most recent one we saw since TBC was one in Zandalar. And he is dead now.
The Burning Blade is part of the Horde since ages.
They lost their King. For all eternity. They actually have quite the history in losing their kings or princes. VolâJins death was not as important given he didnt do anything of value in that time and could easily be replaced (even by thrall if needs be) while now also having been turned into an immortal Loa.
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Yeah but we also got Silvermoon City.
Aweful, ugly, overly twee place.
He will return. Thankfully. Rokhan sucks.
Should be the leader of all Tauren.
Never say never.
Destroy Orgrimmar and build a new city somewhere else.
The council sucks balls. They need to go away permanently.
How are you smart? Your tech keeps exploding. While gnomes have litterly invented phones and helicoptors and nukes together with the dwarves.
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Thereâs Alliance bias?
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I donât think so but his kinda behaviorâs why i left retail.
Yes. This game caters to the Alliance and it needs to stop.
I think that you needs to lay off the mushrooms.
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1 year later and you guys keep letting Erevien bait you.
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Hang on for a second? Goblins with dwarves?
Someone that cant be trusted and does her own things and is utterly unfamiliar with the word Honour. Hmm seems oddly familiarâŚah ye, we had that twice. Didnt work out that well.
Both the Gurubashi and Amani will never join us as a tribe. Some individuals at best perhaps but not the tribe as in âthe tribeâ. They are at war with the Horde since Vanilla or even before that.
Aha and where? Aside from that fact that this would be utterly pointless. Orgrimmar is already in a semi proper place for defense given the Goblins are in the North and to the south and west you can see the enemy come from miles away. Not even the sea is a good spot to attack from. Both sieges of Orgrimmar required a part from within the Horde to deal with their defenses in Durotar.
Still better than any of the previous warchiefs. Nerâzhul was a fool. Doomhammer wasnt that effective either. Blackhand was a warmonger without brain. Thrall was as naive as it could get. Garrosh lacked any kind of brain activity because Blizzard decided to scrap stonetalon Garrosh. VolâJin didnt do anything noteworthy. Sylvanas betrayed the Horde from the get go. Too much power in the hands of a single person doesnt work.
Horde used Nukes before it was cool (theramoore). They were also very effective in dealing with Legion Battlecruisers.
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Fully aware. It beats the other threads tho.
I meant gnomes
Pawn icon -> Set tracking to âMutedâ.
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Gnomes??? Those little pathetic living beings?
Alliance has a Highking and they are doing fine. With the right person in charge everything is possible.
Feralas.
Talanji can work something out. The Zandalari are respected among all tribes.
Hey as a paladin you should be nice or are we gonna have a problem?