The Solo Shuffle Queue Times

Would love to see your pov then. Entilted healers are the worst cos first of all these low mmr healers have no clue how to position themselves. Also i’ve seen a clip of a druid blaming his lock cos he was pressing fear and He couldnt clone. Cloning should be banable offense actually imo.

What does my POV matter when the hunter decide to run to the other end of the arena when I reposition to heal the lock when he teleports? He shouldn’t be on the other end of the arena, there’s no reason for him to be there.

Well the need to reposition when lock ported means your position was bad in first place. So i would like to see whole game before blaming 1 person. Yes he probably made a Mistake however i doubt you would play at idk 2k or something if you player so flawlessly. Before blaming others you need to adress your mistakes.

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Try healing solo shuffle. You constantly have to move to bad positions because people pay no attention to LoS or range and you will lose if you don’t move.

I did and i remember someone trolling with position Once.

On that note, I just watched a warrior leap into a kidney shot → smoke bomb, not trinketing it and dying and going off on the healer when watching my friends shuffle adventures on discord stream. Special warrior.

edit: Ele Shaman that isn’t using tremor totem on fears, lmao.
edit2: He’s not wind shearing.
edit3: He’s not using the wall.
edit4: lol, he went 0-6.
edit5: HE MAD.
edit6: This ele shaman is somehow 2.1k rating. Man didn’t wall once, didn’t tremor once, didn’t wind shear once.

Naaaaaah, they need to change how healer rating gains function in SS.

Just watched a hunter run out without even using camouflage, healer on his team gets sapped and hunter is dying and doesn’t press anything, the healer gets stunned and trinkets the stun and gets instablinded and the hunter dies without pressing anything. 2k rating hunter. Absolute clown. Probably gonna be 3-3 for the healers.

edit: maybe not, the rogue duels enemy healer, the healer kills the rogue in the duel, lmao. Wth even is this rogue.
EDIT2: HAHAHA, “HE STUNNED ME AND CONVOKED ME”, HAHAHAHAHA
edit3: Someone left.

If there is any expectation that Q times will get better, then you are in for a big disappointment.

Solo ranked arena being a shuffle and 3v3 is basically Blizzard shooting itself in the foot.

There was a reason as to why 2v2 was the most played bracket. I guess Blizzard does not know why that was the case or, as always, they wanted to “reinvent” the wheel and as always messed everything up.

They can’t fix SS Q times. Its here to stay and get worse overtime (by overtime i mean as we move into the later stages of active season’s patch).

Petty simple actually, one of them takes roles and rating into consideration, while the other doesn’t?

In SS you can’t end up playing a full dps lobby, as 0 CR you don’t end up facing people with 2.4k cr… In skirmish, you might… So of course the que times are going to be different…

Its not necessarily only “trolling”… But dps players expect the healers to 200IQ and mind read the strats they are trying to pull off, and then gets annoyed when the healer is somewhere else and call it “Bad positioning”… Just because YOU understand when and what to press, you have to consider how and where the healer plays as well… I’ve had multiple scenarios where its so easy to kite a melee dps behind a pillar because they go full zugzug and then he gets killed because:
A) He gets CC’ed behind the pillar and can’t get out, forcing his healer to move out to try and save him resulting in
B) Healer is now in bad position, easily CC’ed and dps dies…

What does the DPS see? Healer in the middle of the map being easily CC’ed, what does he do? “Omg look at your positioning! Are you boosted healer or what? You should push with me!!”

You mention it yourself “low mmr healers”, if you take your experience from higher mmrs and expect them to have it, of course you set them up for failure

Imagine if you miss the Q and you have to wait another 30 minutes :joy:

Just let people solo Q the existing 2v2 and 3v3 brackets because of the 30 second Q time.

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Actually no, i’m pretty sure healers need to play around me as warlock not me around them.

Yes if they make a Mistake its their fault. However they wont admit it and Will blame dps instead of thinking about what they could have Done better. Also people expect to go 6-0 or something all the time however there are matchups that are unwinable. So they lose unwinable matchup and their mentality Is gone for some reason

In a perfect world, that might be the case… But going in with that mentality is the same mentality you call out here:

If you just go in with a “I need to play like this, so therefor my team must adapt to me not the other way around” without communicating it, you’re just going in with an entitled “I know better, therefore everyone not playing the way I want them to is at fault”

Noone expects to go 6-0 all the time… The issue is people will play the lobby like THEY want to instead of trying to adapt to each other, just like you.
So now we are left with dps expecting healers to read minds, and healers being flamed and healers expecting dps to read their minds, and dps being flamed… Everyone is just an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect leaving the game mode in a state that it is.

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This reminds me of the shuffle I played on priest.

Shadow priest.

He’s stunned. He’s getting nuked. He’s not dispering or trinketing. I use guardian spirit on him and it procs instantly, I’m like “OH [insert explicit word here] WHAT DO I DO NOW?” and then I swap him. The guy trinkets as I swap and swaps back and dies.

Like, bro.

Then he goes “YOU SHOULDN’T SWAP LIKE THAT”. As if I should know that he’s gonna trinket to swap me.

Next round with me he’s in a stun, I’ve got nothing for him except swap and he’s got trinket, dispersion and so on.

He dies in the stun.

“SWAP???”

BRO. You just killed yourself when I swapped last time because you swapped back instantly, why would you not trinket to swap this time. I was intentionally not swapping because I expected you to trinket and swap just like the last time but noooo.

This is what I mean xD
It takes 2 seconds for him to be like “Hey let me use swap first when I have trinket, if not you sawp me” boom. Problem solved. Instead of this “I did the correct thing, you are at fault, you should know!” mentality

It creates this environment of people that has watched AWC once and think all of a sudden they are on par with that because, as Tai Lopez would say knowledge

Theres a reason healer shortage is a thing. Yes a part of it is not getting CR, MMR etc. but a big part of it is also being the punching bag of everyone thinking they did everything correct and the healer should’ve done better… I believe even Mmarkers made a video showcasing a Warlock (now that we are in the topic of healers having to play around warlocks), where the warlock completely LoSes him, forces him in, LoSes him again, and then whisper flames him after xD

A good watch tbf

There’s no point in adapting to others. They know how to play and win or dont know and probably lose.

Well theres a difference between overlapping cds and knowing basics such as where to stay

I’m not gonna sit and tell you how to play. I don’t care if you would rather lose to prove a point or not.
I just stated, that the issue with SS is people expecting things from others out of their own POV, which they can do… But then they shouldn’t complain that the other person didn’t follow :slight_smile:

I didn’t mention either in what you are quoting, so struggling to see your point? :slight_smile:

Well He quoted what i quoted, talked about overlapping cds and you said

What i’m saying Is people are bad so they can’t blame others before they themselves play properly. So before they blame others they need to ask if they did everything correctly. Obviously they can adapt to others in order to win (i personally dont care about soloq So i’m not gonna do that). However the point is people are hardstuck 1800 and believe its fault of other people - thats not true, if youre good you will push, if youre bad you wont. Yes Once in a while someone might not however overall its about you not them.

For example i had someone going 1-5 in my lobby who claimed its impossible to play at low mmr cos everyone is bad however He never had high mmr before according to his pvp check so how can He say that. His first button in my game was already troll so i rly dont get this.

Well, he quoted me, talking about reading minds, and just gave an anecdotal example, to which I replied “this is what I mean”. So again, I’m just mentioning the reading minds part.

hance, Dunning Kruger effect, which I mentioned earlier :slight_smile:

And to that, also comes my exact point… Either you believe you’re doing everything correct and refuse to communicate or adapt to your team or its just going to continue in a spiral of experienced people complaining about lack of knowledge in low MMR, and inexperienced people thinking they know all after a “PVP Guide” video.

so do you all think that game balance is only thing here? As far as I remember there always was hard to find healer.