I love how his cloak is rank 1 xd
Me too here i am maybe i will do 10 if i want today not like i am in hurry.
So where is your point now?
You need 4 runs for 12, minimum.

I love how his cloak is rank 1 xd
I had the assumption it was a forum alt, still. No full clear achievement, no masks earned,
And do you see me even not having that askign for nerfs?
I think it should be buffed instead.
Thought it was meant to be challenge.

You need 4 runs for 12, minimum.
Daaarn… I think I never get 12 then

Daaarn… I think I never get 12 then
10-11 is 4 runs. 11-12 is 1.
Cant answer?
Do you see me asking for nerfs even when i am behind in it ?
I bother with it as somethign meant to be a challenge not mindless rhc.
Using inerrupt and not standin in crap is as challenging it is + time and cd management.
Compared to mage tower this is easy joke.
NErf it more can make it free then already.

10-11 is 4 runs. 11-12 is 1.
Now this is what i thought. That i can skip sw, as I anyway am a bit short of 4 runs now on my raider (have 3 vessels) and so by end of week get 4 (2nd minor assault) and then get 1 from next week major, I could have smooth run.
I have 2… or was it 3 characters on cloak 10, but only one (2nd rate alt) has spare vessels, as my 2 prominent characters were doing some fun runs too). but my problem (and I dont blame blizzard on my problems) is that i do not do daily quests. I only do 3 assaults+ 1st minor vision of the week. So it limits my vessel gain a bit.
Look at the bright side, you could have been me. I wasted 3 vessels last week trying to unlock the 2nd mask, but I cleared the wrong zones and failed clearing the wrong zones for a second time. Then failed a 3rd time, this time the right zone, but did it too fast and didn’t see I left some mobs behind who kept me in combat lol.

Cant answer?
I see you, after having said you haven’t attempted to do something, continuing to comment on something you haven’t attempted to do.
I do not care about the difficulty overall, if making the changes that have been said make things too easy (Which you wouldn’t know because you have no point of reference) then make them harder again some other way.

Look at the bright side, you could have been me. I wasted 3 vessels last week trying to unlock the 2 mask, but I cleared the wrong zones and failed clearing the wrong zones for a second time. Then failed a 3rd time, this time the right zone, but did it too fast and didn’t see I left some mobs behind who kept me in combat lol.
… well thats my story - this is why i am short of vessels. I misunderstood the way I get the masks.
The guide said to clear the valley of wisdom, I cleared and tried to clear the valley of spirits and the drag. I thought it was bugged Haha.

if making the changes that have been said make things too easy
Because that ever happend did ?
I knwo it did they made m+ to be challenging dungeson and not mindless rhc.
IT was BUILT TO BE CHALLENGING and not askign for nerfs constantly goes about point of existence of it.
People lose “REEE NERF IT” i lost “REEE NERF” it me : i lose hmm i did something wrong will try better nextime.
DO you see point ?

I knwo it did they made m+ to be challenging dungeson and not mindless rhc.
Except M+ dungeons have received countless tuning changes, most notably in areas where none specific mechanics (Affixes) have interacted with the specific dungeon mechanics to create a circumstance that isn’t fun to deal with.
Which is exactly what we have here. A none specific mechanics (Leaden Foot) interacting with something Stormwind specific (Umbric’s repeat intermission phases) to create a situation that is not fun to deal with.

The guide said to clear the valley is wisdom, I cleared and tried to clear the valley of spirits and the drag. I thought it was bugged Haha.
I blame my lack of english and reading skills. I misread someones post on forums here. And then my other character went to help friend and then later I memorised that “oh, I need vessels this week” so there went my 2 characters. But if next week allows me to catch up, and gives me time to learn to read, then its not too much of a problem.
Me not being able to read English is also completely my problem. Although Blizzard should be a bit clearer in-game too.
so when you have to do something different and think about it and not just midnlessly go it is bad?
I instead like these things so ?
Same as people raging on “game” world qeust since it is not just mindlessly kill just 1 dude and instead of logical mini games like tortollan/nazjatar chests etc/puzzles etc.
Ye requires thinking too much REE !
I want ot just kill 1 dude REEE!
SO gtf. with your nerfs on stuff meant to be challenging.
Hasn’t that always been the case though? Reading guides on 3rd party websites to know what to do instead of in game info? If I hadn’t read the article on wowhead regarding the potions in visions, I wouldn’t have touched them again. And they really make a difference. But ye, perhaps some ingame tips and hints in the journal would have been great.
IF things does not intrigue your brain then design of it has failed.

IF things does not intrigue your brain then design of it has failed
It does not ‘intrigue my brain’ to walk forwards for 4 seconds, then stand still for 4 more seconds, and repeat that process 4-5 times in order to hit a mob which will then teleport away and force me to repeat that process 3 times before it lets me kill it.
It’s very very easy to press W and then stop pressing W. But it is monumentally tedious, and when you’re already on the clock just doesn’t add up to being very enjoyable.