I don’t know what I’m doing because of those inconsistencies, or rather flaws, in the story delivery. No, nothing is presented to the player in chronological order. I’m able to do dungeons that take place way beyond whatever stage I’m at in the central narrative during the levelling process, and no there’s nothing to guide me in the right direction. Quite the opposite, in fact. The game defaults to directing me to Dragonriding races, instead of following the main story. I have to switch to the appropriate quest manually, highlighting it so that the arrow shows me in the right direction. But, as soon as I’m done with one step in that central narrative, the game idiotically directs me to another race.
This is just one example in a myriad of examples – many of which given by other players in this very thread – of the wanton neglect for story delivery exhibited by the developers. But you can keep burying your head in the sand and pretend everything is fine and dandy because ultimately all you care about is shilling for the status quo.
Blizzard doesn’t do “expansions” now they do ‘seasons’ and since the 10.0 (Season 1) finished ages ago that content no longer means anything to Blizzard.
They exist in a superfluous bubble. They have no internal quality control over the story and haven’t since Danuser was put in charge. Whinge all you like at the fact but Warlords of Draenor was actually the last expansion with internal cohesion.
This is typical elfposting behaviour, don’t respond to it and if you see an elf from Argent Dawn you’re best to just farquad-point-laugh.gif at them.
Yes it does, you have not been paying attention to your quest log.
The minute you accept the expansion’s first quest the game adds the current expansion story to the chapters sections at the very top of your quest log.
You must follow those quests and it gives you next-step instructions on what to do to unlock the story for each patch. Two of those quests are to be introduced to the Valdrakken accord which will unlock the renowned reputation rewards but also quests. It even tells you what renown you need to be at to continue the story.
As each patch continues to be brought into the game a section called Campaigns is made and each patch from top to bottom is placed there with instructions on how to start them and where to find the NPC with the introductory quest.
However, it seems you manage to ignore one of the first things the game introduces you to and run straight to Shandris the guardians of the dream patch.
The dungeons are optional content, you don’t have to do them, most of the quests are optional content and have nothing to do with the main narrative but tell you about the rich lore of the peoples, how the dragons adapting to being back in the isles, how is the dragonkin rebellion is being sorted out but all this requires you to actually read the quest text. The Blue Dragon flight quest line is a very popular one and the other renowned have their own quest lines as well.
This game is not FF14 its not going to lock optional instanced dungeon content behind a story when it is not part of the main narrative and doesn’t really have an impact on it because other people don’t care about the story and just want to do dungeons.
You are accepting the dragon-riding quests. Nothing in this game directs you to them other than an exclamation Mark, I know because I did them today because they weren’t important. It seems like you complaining about the quests that you arbitrarily accept without bothering to read them.
You are an adult, stop blaming the game for what is you not even doing the basics and ignoring everything it’s telling you. It’s not hard it is just one button press away.
This is because it is pushed to the top of the quest log. I can literally log onto a fresh level 60 alt, touch the Dragon Isles and this is shoved to the top of the quest log. Logic dictates that the majority of players will do the quest put there because obviously it must be important to the main story right?
Someone who has had no interaction with the game for several expansions will also be unfamiliar with a ‘Campaign’ quest system besides that too.
I don’t understand why you feel the pressing urging need to protect Blizzard incompetency in systems design that is thoroughly unfriendly to players who skipped even a single patch in an expansion (I did in SL with Korthia) let alone someone who hasn’t played for multiple expansions.
The OP’s complaint is that the system flow for getting into a chronological order of quests is basically rendered neutered by the NEW SEASON, NEW THING, NEW SHINY that Blizzard stack on top of every single expansion they’ve done since Legion.
Please accept that there is an interface bloat with this game that forces players into using external mods or off site guides on where to start the proper quest chains and proper sequences to get to these things.
Assuming malevolence and dis-ingenuity as opposed to understanding that just because something looks ‘fine’ to you does not automatically assume it must be for every other single person playing this game. Worshipping at the altar of Blizzard does not help anyone.
I’m new, I just started Drsgonflight a month and half ago in November. This is someone who didn’t bother to read the tutorial on how to read the quest log which is given to you the first time you open the UI.
It’s literally one key bind away and it summarises the entire expansion in chronological order along with notifiying you about the current patch. I have no sympathy for someone who didn’t pay the most basic form of attention and then blamed the game for giving them the agency to select what content they would like to do.
It’s not complicated, it’s not hard and all it does is take 2 minutes out of your day to read a UI tutorial.
Not everything is Blizzard’s fault and the reason you struggling might be just because you didn’t even try to think for yourself.
Also, the UI is minimalist and people make it more complicated because they would like more information. Next, you’ll be telling me you haven’t read the adventures guide or checked the heroes board for content suggestions or what mechanics a dungeon or raid boss might be doing.
No, its not impossible. I followed it pretty easy and even did sojourner quests just for my curiosity, they made me love Dragonglight more, its now my second best expac after BfA.
So ye, its “not impossible”, its impossible for you!
That reminds me…
I dearly hope there will be a legendary trans-arachnid main story quest chain with many gay NPCs all over the place in WW, which will be pre-requisite to unlock 1st raid.
Please, Blizzard, make it happen,
I am gonna poke my crystal ball and search for this exact timeline just for your pleasure, Loresian.
I find it extremely odd that people are surprised there is woke content in WoW considering it is made in California and woke content is basically just Californian Social culture.
Of course that might not translate well cross-culturally depending on where you are from and games usually remove the content if it’s severe enough such as in the Middle East or China.
However, if it’s that much of a problem just don’t buy the product and if you going to continue then it’s not going to change. Even in an expansion more themed around war, death, pestalincw or famine there would still be that Californian bias.
Even Baulders gate 3 was called Woke and it was literally what Belgium people found to be socially acceptable it was probably the game of the decade showing you that people really dont care about it.
How is it extremely odd to find it surprising that the people who praise progress and openmindedness are the ones who are often the most discriminative and closeminded bunch to the point where they have to insert their own delusive bubble into a story, even if it doesn’t make sense?
They’re literally where every one of the game’s major plot points are resolved.
I just told you that the game literally defaults to putting the Dragon Flight races at the top of the quest tab.
Anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together can acknowledge that the questing delivery system is absolutely broken, so we may have found the problem at hand here.
I’ll direct you to this youtube video of this WoW content creator talking about this very real, very blatant, and completely undeniable (except to you) issue at length: https://youtu.be/gpZp8cKLr34?si=15IeMXsSBXrIYr96&t=1001
And he’s talking about it from a returning player perspective. From a brand new one, the problems are compounded.
It can be done manually, I suppose. Play Classic up to WotLK, then switch to retail and use Chromie Time, lock XP at level 30 for flying (I think it was 30), and do the remaining expansions in order.
They could probably design a chronological story tour on rails, but it would be quite the project. Whether it’d be worth the effort, I don’t know. I feel it would help bring in new players, but the numbers may be too low to justify such an undertaking.
I can totally relate with this. WoW storytelling is usually messy, and it was like this from the very beginning.
The original WoW had no storytelling or global plot at all. Every zone had it’s own small stories. You could say it was a story of the whole world told as dozens of small local stories, which together formed a whole picture as a puzzle pieces. There was no plot, but the lore.
With BC and WotLK the main concept stayed the same. But, since new expansions area is smaller, and quests usually connected to main “theme” of expansion, it felt much more concentrated and “plotted”. The feel of it was the most in WotLK imo, everything is connected to Arthas, and some epic quest chains through several dungeons ending in ICC were introduced. I still believe WotLK was the most plot focused expansion so far.
I believe WoW still has “legacy” of lot of small unconnected stories going in parallel. Anyway there some improvements were introduced in later expansions, like main quest highlight in the journal and etc. One step back into the mess was introduction of seasons. If you play season by season, then plot have some sense, because you observe story when it’s released gradually. But if one starts in later patches - it’s mess, because all previous season stories are happening at the same time. There are reasons for that, so no one will be forced to play through whole expansion to catch with everyone else.
Experiencing WoW story is not simple thing and could be improved a lot by Bliz, but I don’t think it has high priority for them. I tried to experience the whole story long time ago, and I have some advices:
One should use questing addons. BtwQuests is a nice one. It shows quest chains, so it would be possible to track from which small plot the current quest is, and allows to see what quests were missed.
Search quests on Wowhead and see in which patch they were released. And then do quest chains in order of patches to avoid messing chronological order.
That sounds a lot more interesting than what we got.
I was also partial to the quest where we play errand boy/wedding planner for the two gay blacksmiths in the Ruby Enclave, that was nice. And vintage WoW.
Didn’t understand why some of the Centaurs kept referring to singular persons as “they” at first though, and almost opened a bug report. Then I realized they’d adopted the far left reformulation of the English language.
I look forward to “xe”, “ze”, “ne”, “ve”, “spivak” and other such gender-neutral gobbledygook to be included in future patches. Nothing screams High Fantasy like neo-Marxist deconstruction of language.
They are resolved in the content you haven’t done called the renown grind, you would know this if you opened your quest log.
You don’t need to visit any of the dungeons for the story to make sense because they are by default optional content that only adds context. It’s why dungeons like the Ruby life pools aren’t part of the main narrative.
Mate, I’m not the one struggling here to navigate a menu or accept quests you don’t need to.
Giving me a T&E video just makes me lose more respect for you, I take their wow takes as seriously as take their politics which means not at all.
If you going to give me a creator give me one which stands firm by their opinions and doesnt change them depending on the way the wind is blowing at the time or one which doesn’t cause 90% of the community drama
I haven’t played this game properly since BFA because FF14 was my main game. I tried shaowlands etc left under month. Tired Dragonflight in November the menu was never a problem because I read the menu tutorial
Of course you have to visit the instances in order to understand the story. They’re literally where all the relevant events take place, from the villains being defeated, to the birthing of the world tree, to the Dragons recovering their aspectral powers. Are you really this obtuse, or is it some kind of worm-kin type trolling?
And again, I have no idea what this renown grind you’re talking about is. There’s nothing on my quest log for it.
Currently the #1 quest that’s highlighted in my log is the stupid Storm Race tour. I didn’t do that. The game defaults to that automatically, every time I finish a quest, even if it’s a campaign quest. I’d have to manually change back to the campaign quest (“Future Aspects”) I’m currently on…if only I could. It’s not even possible to be tracked.
I don’t have a single quest in the log pertaining to renown.
Wish I could show you a screencap, but apparently it’s not allowed in the forums.
Arguing with that guy is pointless bro, majority clearly agrees with you.
But this won’t change because every new patch, previous patch becomes obsolete and they push you towards the newest one, story is not important, I’m sure the Devs realise it sucks.
The birthing of the world tree doesn’t happen in a dungeon, what you are doing is conflating dungeons with all instances of content and you don’t even have to do the raid to see the cinematic.
Dungeons are very minor plot threads such as the Ruby Life Pools, Brackenhide Hollow, and Algeth’ar Academy which while important to side quests are not important for the main narrative.
I’m not being obtuse you just don’t know what your talking about .
If you open your map and quest log it will tell you to raise renown with major factions to continue the campaign.
Well when. You have bad takes such as comparing wow to drug use like you did last time of course no one is going to agree with your pyromancer level take.
