The strongest factions of the Horde?

I was wondering which races of the Horde might contribute the most to the overall strength of the red faction. Any good guesses by you people on the forums here would be a pleasure to read. Thanks in advance for possible answers.

Currently? I’d say that regardless of how badly they were treated, the Zandalari would probably be top place.
Followed by Blood elves and Goblins.

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Going by sense, the Goblins should make the bulk of numbers and tech.

Zandalari are up there too, bug after the civil war, the blood trolls and the alliance attack i don’t know if they could claim the top spot.

Going by Ingame Representation, the biggest Number of normal troops is still Orcs, even if they should struggle with extinction after basically being at war with changing enemies for near 40 years now.

Not sure how Bloodelves could be a Top Faction. They lost 90% of their people, and with a slow reproduction rate common for elves there was not nearly enough time to rebuilt. And they lost another part to Kael’s betrayal, the leaving Highelves, and to the traitorous Voidelves.
So while they were not nearly as badly hit by Garrosh’s and Sylvanas’ wars, they still lost much in WoW and should still be in the “YAY we survived” phase after the near extinction through Arthas.

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I think Goblins are currently in the best position.

They’re the least exposed to wars and their greedy nature surely helped with resources.

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Well, the reason i decided to put them on top, is the fact that their power can be used to project their strength better. They have armies, mystical powers, and wealth. A defined command structure, and a somewhat stable sense of civilisation.

Goblins are wealthy and have certain technological edge, but lack the manpower to display such strong points in an optimal way. And are chaotic by nature, something that makes it hard for them to have the discipline required to push their cause.

Well, i still think that Blood elves are one of the races that had the best trajectory and recovery rate. They have been consistently pumped every expansion with additional assets that just made them stronger, and even if they started at their lowest, they lacked the sort of erosion other races like Orcs or Forsaken had with their respective civil wars.

That’s extremely hard to say because most races haven’t suffered any major losses the past few years. The Darkspear Trolls are more or less the same I think, much like the Tauren and Goblins. I also don’t think that the Forsaken should be left out of the equation.

My main guess would be the Zandalari, seeing that their kingdom is still mostly intact and functioning.

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Well it’s only predictions based on past events since we don’t know how the current state of the Horde. Lorewise the Alliance is insanely more powerful than the Horde, especially after BfA.
Pandaren is a bit tricky, they are neutral so they do share the Wandering Isle and Pandaria with the Pandaren of the Alliance. So the question is if we keep that into account or not.

My guess is that it looks like this right now:

Zandalari is probably the strongest one at this point, they may have lost their fleet. But the main army were focused north by a distraction and probably didn’t sustain large casualties.
They will eventually rebuild their fleet and by that time they will be far stronger than the other Horde factions combined. Because let’s be honest, the other factions are in a pretty bad state at this point.

Second strongest I bet is the Nightborne, a lot of manpower and great magicians. They are however very exposed by the sea. But should be able to get reinforcements from Highmountain.

Blood Elves used to have close allies, but the kingdom is more exposed now that Forsaken has lost their home. But they have restored their Sunwell that will make them stronger and hopefully rebuilt Quel’thalas at this point.
They also has a decent fleet, although not as impressive as the Zandalari one. Blood Knights, Farstrider, Spellbreakers and Magisters that acts as the army is quite respectable. They also have deployed Arcane Guardians and more recently Blood Golems.

I combined the Orcs and Mag’har clan since they are of the same race. Orcs are very powerful warriors and even more so with the addition of the Mag’har clan. But I argue that their strength is their fortress and their allies since it’s essentially the capital of the Horde. They have close to their allies, both Darkspear and the Tauren.

Tauren from Mulgore and Highmountain on the Broken Shore are equal I would say. Both have close allies, cities that are easy to defend, strong warriors and a decent army.

I will not consider the Darkspear Trolls to be a part of the Zandalari Empire since their leader rejected the proposal in Cataclysm. The Darkspear has recovered a lot since Warcraft III when they escaped with Thrall to Durotar. While they may have lost their leader during Legion, they have a lot of good warriors with decent leadership with Rokhan as an example.

Goblins has the best technology in the Horde with a failure rate of only ~90%. But when their technology works, they can cause a lot of havoc.
They’re a small group at the moment with a new leader that is more considerate than Gallywix, so I expect they may improve a lot in the future.

Vulpera is arguably one of the weakest faction in the Horde. The impression I get from them is that they are travelers without a capital city. The only reason why I consider Vulpera to be stronger than the Forsaken at this point, is that they have a leader and is used to being on the run.

Forsaken is sadly the weakest at this point, they lost their home, most of their army, the Blight and their queen. They are essentially refugees at this point and many Horde members probably keep their distance from them and wouldn’t help them if they need help.

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I’d say the forum whiners. But only because they have a massive Shindorei powerhouse.

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Joke appart, I give my vote for Zandalari, second goes for Nithborne and third place goes for belfs as untouched much by warrs.

But still don’t like how horde was weakened in every expansion to reach current low state. On top of overall numbers of man power, we lost so much major characters, but there is no dvelopment arc in horde for all that lost. We have one character developed in BFA, that I personally dislike, that’s Zekhan and may be coming light to Rokhan as troll leader /note here, that trolls were leaderless really long time as no other race after Vol’jin lost/.

It seems Shadowlands will not fix balance behind this. Also don’t like, that older races in horde are weaker, than new one. In alliance all races looks strong enouth alone.

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Trolls were leaderless for 2 Addons, Orcs had no real confirmed leader since garrosh died and while thrall took a place in the council he really doesn’t want to lead.

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It’s even stranger than that in the novel, really. “Do not fear this, he thought, gazing around at those assembled. You lead no one. You simply sit among equals.” is Thrall’s inner dialogue in the new novel. I guess only leaders count as someone. :wink:

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I’d say the Zandalari, Blood Elves and Nightborne.

The Orcs and Tauren aren’t really presented as powerful factions now with them primarily being represented by Thrall and Baine, two plain warriors at this point, and there’s not much indicating military might.

Blizzard don’t do numbers, but you don’t really get a sense that there are a large number of Mag’har Orcs. It would be nice if Blizzard would build up their numbers and showcase their military might ala Iron Horde to prop up the Orcs more.

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Danuser said a quote alot of Maghar came from AU Draenor over with us. And other visitors like Ogres and Botani.

According to the latest novel their army is only comprised of 40 people.

Never trust Blizzard with numbers. Orcs already work with clone machines.

You think it’s a joke but it’s actually canon now…in the new book it says the FORGES of Orgrimmar are already at hard work to replace the LOSSES of the Orcs during the Fourth War. Not to make new weapons, but just to replace the losses…

The text exactly says that…which actually makes it sound that new Orcs are produced directly in the forges of Orgrimmar just like that like they were made of metal :sweat_smile: :rofl:

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