I am amazed that i have not heard more complains about this, on the 17/11 unbound chaos will be reworked:
" Demon Hunter
New Talent: Unbound Chaos (replaces Fel Mastery) – Unbound Chaos has been redesigned – Now causes your next Immolation Aura cast to increase the damage of your next Fel Rush by 300%. Lasts 20 seconds."
this is a huge nerf to dhs.
As of now dh are not doing to hot, the only thing they kinda hade going for them is unbound chaos and as of now they are changeing it to empower the next fel rush you do. But the numbers are extremly off, if i hover over my tooltip on my fel rush it does 335 dmg and unbound chaos does 3640, for the fel rush buff to just be the same in dmg it need a 1087% increse not a puny 300%.
Then you could argue that this will work in shadowlands beacause we get a new rank of fel rush at lvl 52 that increses the dmg by 25%, alright lets do some quick math:
335x1.25=418,75
418,75x3=1256,25
So even with the next rank of fel rush it does significant less dmg (aprox 1/3) then what unchanged Unbound chaos does, i sencerly hope that blizzard will look in to this so dh are not only a 5% magic buff but actualy a viable dps class.
Sence we only have 1 Dps spec its very important for Havoc dh to be able to compete in dps or the class will die off.
This is not really a big nerf honestly. UBC damage was never ever going to stay this huge, this was the damage adjustment, although I can see them increase it to 350% or perhaps 400%.
UBC was extremely unreliable where you very often did not hit your target due to shenanigans. This version now affecting your next Fel Rush is gonna be overall for AoE better and always reliable.
from what i have seen on beta logs it was around 10% of the dhs dmg on full st and that is around the same as now in prepatch, and i felt like UBC worked good and ended up where it should when in dungeons or raids but out in the world it just randomly stoped and did all kinds of weird things.
unfortunely if they keep it at 300% i can only see this talent becoming the old fel mastery aka never ever picked for any type of content
This is just simply not true. You had to aim it against walls, latency ruined the animation completly, and things like double jumping and gliding bugged it often too. In PvP the spell was a complete nightmare to land without CC too.
New version is a lot better, even if it looks visually worse. Instead of making talents broken they should make the core kit good and buff Blade Dance and make FB Baseline.
well i personaly have not hade to much of issues with it but i have heard other complain about it
I dont mind the new version but this brings me back to the entire reason i did this post it is severely undertuned and needs a propper buff for it to be competitive in anyway, as of now it will just be a dead talent.
I do agree on the part where they should make things like FB baseline but i doubt they will do it, as of now shadowlands looks like we will be useing the same talents as for the entire bfa FB and trail of ruin, hope we get to spice it up somehow
This change has left me very confused and seriously considering not bothering with DH at the start of Shadowlands. For context I completed a SoT +15 last night with the details log still saved. Just completed another SoT today and the damage is noticably lower.
SoT (Last night): UBC = 1st damage ability at 26.8%. 3.6k DPS Overall.
SoT Overall (Today): Fel Rush = 4th damage ability 10.4%, below Eye beam, Annihilation and FAB… 2.3k DPS Overall.
After the first 2 trash packs I was incredibly confused as to why my DPS was so low, as I normally don’t bother keeping up with Patch Notes. I only found this thread after googling UBC Nerfs?
I imagine Trail of Ruin / First Blood is worth a try but I can’t see how it’ll compare with the raw damage numbers AOE and ST, UBC gave. Back to Mage for me it seems.
I was never a really dedicated wow just would come by having fun and leave, this pre-patch I decided to dedicate properly and levelled up a DH I had already at lvl40 and I loved the gameplay of it, now with the nerf honestly, I don’t know if I will bother to play anymore…
I really dont think these sorts of nerfs affect us casual players that much, I’m still enjoying and playing my DH a lot.
Unless you’re trying to push the highest mythic keys and raids just enjoy the playstyle, the feel of a class if more important to a casual player than how effective it is.
Don’t let the forums ruin it for you. Play and decide for yourself.
