The whole game needs a reset and a debloat

8 keys is future proofs and very effective for the game… the game needs personality for all players the talent system could have a deep system were you can prune the abilities yourself

3rd time you mindlessly repeat the same thing without addressing my arguments against it.

Cya

Titan borns from Azeroth planet goes BOOM we escape to another world Orc style through the portal Chadgar creates hilarity ensues when we encounter native inhabitats while we take land from them.

the planet behind the great beyond were Sargeras is jailed

Some of the suggestions in this thread sound plausible, others are completely…insane.

I’m not convinced that pruning skills/abilities from classes would solve anything.
I’d rather see a variation inside each class. Focus on AoE ↔ single target, have more crowd control vs damage. This would allow people to create a build for their character that suits their playstyle.
I’m aware however that this will most likely still lead to people excluding classes based on their build because it’s not min/max’d or not to their liking, but it would make part of the player base happy to something they like.

It would also allow “simpler” build with less abilities if you’d choose to do so.
All in all, more options for people. But I don’t see this happening because Blizzard won’t be able to balance any of this, resulting in probably a greater mess than we have right now.

building upon the hero talent system will fix that issue if blizzard plays there cards right

the team is very small so blizzard can take there time and focus on this matter being in the same ball park will solve that class balance issues you can work that out like the building of the pyramids blizzard can figure a new way to balance the game its not a over night job

a new system for them to use will have them balance out the classes in the game in no time you will see

days of darkness upon us

I don’t want an orc style world.
I like civilization. :smiling_face:

You can easily learn the base of 90% of the specs ingame, you dont need a website.

Websites come to play if you wanna learn it faster or more advanced.

If 100% of a class can be learned easily ingame without a guide or practice, the game would be become boring quite fast.

its not

it is

I think 8 would be too few.
WoW has no targeting skills (Skyrim) or constant mobility (like a MOBA or GW2, let’s ignore modern PvP for now please), so its main feature is routine (rotation) and reactivity (CC, cooldowns, buffs).

For me personally about 10-15 routine skills are fine (bit hard to say) and a similar amount of utility. Historically, filling the 3 bottom bars and a bit of the right ones would be around 40, but using all of those well would be generally impossible.

E.g.

  • WLK paladin - light rotation, utility heavy
    • Routine: 2+3 main rotation, kill move, pull move
    • Utility: Damage CD, Survival CD, Taunt (2x), Stun, Dispel, Trinket (2x), Buffs (slightly bloated with short+long, 4x2), Tank Buff, Seal (2x), Hand of Freedom, Hand of Salvation, Hand of Protection, Revive, Self Sacrifice (no kick / repentance, maybe talents idk)
  • WLK druid - Very lightweight
    • Routine: Lifebloom, Rejuvenation, Regrowth, Healing Touch, Swiftmend, Wild Growth
    • Utility: Dispel (2x), Cyclone, Mark of the Wild, Thorns, Rebirth, Revive
    • No dps in tree form and most CC is dysfunctional (Hibernate, Roots)

I suggest we all have 93723489 abilities. If you can only memorise and keybind only a tenth of that, you bad. 93723489 is bigger than 14, more quality.

the game is going in to a new era and better for it… the game is a old timer the whole pruning will benefits the game in the long run it do not take the best in wow to figure that out

considering poison cleansing totem completely negates afflicted, i’d say shamans will be pretty pissed if they lose it.

the game is going through a huge revamp I do not think the pillow fluffers will be staying

the game is going to blow the socks off the players in Midnight

What do you mean by key? Do you mean dungeons or abilities?

Can you read?
I was talking about dungeons not abilities.
I would love 93723489 dungeons.

We will bring the civilization to savages by the grace of the golden throne.

Yea, bfa class gameplay was bad.

Shadowlands was better in that regard, and dragon, even better aside a few like warlock.

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