The wonders of pug raiding!

h ttps://imgur.com/a/wTCdEpw

gets your facts str8, no one looks at old season to inv people, people just get 1800 efortlessy because this season is free, players that don’t even know tactics already have 1600+ and 17+ done, keys with 10+ deaths are still easy to time…

Not sure what that screenshot is supposed to prove for your argument.

edit: Looking up one of the people’s names at random in that screenshot… The person I checked was doing keys above 20s last season.

edit2: Looked up another one and they’ve been doing mid 20 keys in a previous season.

edit3: Another one - did 25s in season 1.

So it’s like I said, people that have done higher keys in previous seasons.

That’s straight up a lie, lol.

Use one ` on each end like this https://imgur.com/a/wTCdEpw to post sterilized links.

maybe, not everyone though, surely I dont use this addon as I was to lazy to redownload all the addons in the game :wink: and old season with ALL DUNGEONS DIFFERENT, won’t really tell you much how acknowledged people are with current tactics

to make you feel better, ill show you another list of s3 day 3 score of everyone that queue h ttps://imgur.com/a/h9Fp3qx, again all of them have at least 3 dungeons + done on minimum +15 with barely any a3 gear

People aren’t gonna suddenly become worse at playing their class because it’s a new season.

These people I’ve checked were doing keys above 20 in previous seasons. Including people in your new screenshot.

facts, current season is so easy that only dps matters a bit ( still not that much), people don’t know tactics and dungeons are still easily done in time

It’s “easy” because these people are accomplished players. Those I’ve checked have done content that’s harder than the dungeons in the 17-20 range.

Try it with people that have only done +10 as their highest ever instead of with people that have done keys up to around 25.

I wouldn’t call them accompished if they fail at simple tactics, their dps is not that geat and even then- dungeons are still easily timeable with 10+ deaths in run, stop forcing your philosophies and just stop being denial
I’ve met litearlly terrible players at +17 already

and to make it even more clear for you, in old season even beasts had to get higher ilvl from new season in order to do +15 dungeons

In older dungeons packs cold be also that hard that you could exclude someone from pack to not wipe- but that wasn’t a case for whole df span

Got your ksm and all portals yet champ? Apparently its eez.

Are you going to respond this time?

What season? Because I’ve gone into +15 on first week in several seasons.

any bfa, legion or sl season before fated, new season didn’t mean you can go yolo on highest key with old gear

Bruh.

That’s on launch day of the season.

that has to be from fated as it was one of easiest seasons in game too and blizzard started to doing game much easier - then yes +15 on first day were also doable

Except you said SL season.

I corrected myself shortly after, find something like that on first day pre fated season of sl which was experimental anyway, raids and dungeons were joke on it

Now what? That’s in SL season 2, first week.

If you actually bothered to fact check before you post, you would realize just how dumb it is to claim that this is something specific to this season or season 4 in SL that people are beating the dungeons in previous seasons gear. The people that are going into the higher echelon of dungeons are people that have accomplished the same thing in previous seasons, people that have played keys that are harder than the keys they are doing in a new season. This doesn’t mean the season is easy, it means the players that are doing those keys are good at playing their classes.

Meeh, the most annoying thing with the entire group finder is the win-more mentality/pattern.

Lag behind a tiny bit and your stuck in a grind.

where you can even check it ? that it was first day of new season

The date?

Season 2 launched on 6th of july, this key was done on 8th of july. They were still in pretty much season 1 gear.

I have already 3 portals and 2 chested the 20ies. It’s very undertuned

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