Is it the players fault for creating such as GDKP? Buying gold from third-parties, using bots, cheats trough the game to just get some sort of advantage?
Is it blizzard for enabling, creating issues and obstetrical that encourage these players behavior?
Personalty i would say both.
But what do your tough about it?
And also while its likely too late, what would you do if you as a player had the power too solve those problems?
Of course it’s both, the fact that such a large percentage of the player base prefer GDKP over other forms of raids make it a lot of the fault of the players.
Why would blizz do anything about GDKP:s if such a large portion of their customers prefer it that way.
But yes Blizz is also to blame because of the lackluster actions against botting.
And yes it’s too late, there is nothing left other than to milk the rotting carcass of Classic for what it’s worth.
It’s Blizzard’s fault for having such awful anti-cheating methods that allow botters and people who RMT to screw with the game so much.
GDKP is just another loot system.
how wow token is a surprise is the biggest surprise they have been pushing towards gdkp for so years now
Bots make gold, players buy that gold RMT, that gold is then spent in gdkp’s,
you cant fight bots and RMT then allow gdkp’s, they go hand in hand,
There is no rainbows without rain.
In a perfect world where bots don’t exist, GDKPs would be a lot cheaper.
During TBC we had a post here where a person was complaining about high prices in GDKP. He just leveled a warrior to max level, was in greens, and “dreamed” of having a full tier set. The raid tier was like 3 weeks out and he already wanted a full set. He could not get into normal pugs due to lack of gear, no progress on the toon, and wanted GDKP but had no gold… Progressing through dungeons and previous raid tiers to then get the current one wasn’t on his list of options.
Similar thing happened in SoM were some people went nutz with R14 farming because it’s BiS, so screw MC runs. A large amount of RMT, account sharing, and really bad behavior.
The game is absurdly gear-driven and people are just greedy or addicted. It’s hard to change that in old versions of WoW that are supposed to be as they were.
Who’s to Blame? The illegal gold buyers.
How could we prevent it? We couldn’t as people were buying gold and Blizzard wanted some of that money.
Bots did not make blizzard activate tokens.
It won’t be removed so either quit playing or put up with it.
I don’t care about WoW Token here because i’m not here for the “Classic experience” because it’s a marketing argument to sell this game.
I’m only here for warcraftlogs, after that i’m back to pserv and at least with the real old game, /spit, not fruits paint, not some spells and achivements name changed, not body type 1 & 2 etc.
Easy, just actually give the gold buyers a harsh punishment. No more 1 day ban for purchasing 100k gold. It should be far heavier and then people would think twice before getting involved with RWT.
I Hate GDKP’s and its the reason i quit classic, banning them would work.
That’s 100% true because buyers funnel the gold into the raids and the raid leaders resell the gold to the websites.
People would rather sell burgers for 8 hours then instantly equip and epic than play the game and earn it. It’s the dumbest capitalist logic I’ve ever seen.
Banning more bots would be great too but the gold in GDKPs is massive currently and it’s circulating. Even if you banned bots, the websites have so much of it at hand that it would take a long time for the economy to balance out again.
So yeah, in a perfect RMT less world GDKPs could work, but I doubt blizzard will ever allocate enough resources to prevent bots.
Now that you have a token it means they’re here to stay and classic servers are done. There’s no going back to anything like a classic WoW experience. I never played private servers so I don’t want to name it as an option but I figure some ppl will migrate there.
It’s really sad but that’s the reality. Retails sucks honestly and I gave it a chance in DF but it’s become such a stressful game.
I honestly think that banning GDKPs could work together with removing the token and overseeing bots but just typing this out makes me realise how unreal it sounds.
WoW classic would survive all of this. I’m sure of it because people would adapt and realise where the actual fun of this game is. Blizzard might take a dip in its profits but it would have a stable loyal fan base, sadly that’s something nobody in management cares about.
People likes GDKP because they are tired in 2023 to raid over months without getting loot because not enough loot drop per boss or everytime the same loot.
GDKP is awesome for that because at least you are happy to get something at the end => gold
I understand that, the question is simple though, do you want to allow p2w or not. Maybe the answer would simply be to make severs without GDKP and simply see what is more popular
It probably would fail. Ultimately large realms are already set in stone after so many years. Who’d join a new fresh server if they already have a full geared main account with all the gold they’d need? Didn’t fate of fresh realms teach you anything?
Or we can just trying the kill GDKP by reducing the valor of the golds.
Put more spot of herbs/ores to get flask etc. cheaper
Put 5-6 loots per boss in 25 man
With that, i don’t see any reason for them to buy gold for GDKP.
Blizzard wanted their cut of the gold selling, that’s the only reason for the token. They will make millions off of this, every token sold is a huge increase over a normal sub. Don’t forget, gold buying is popular because if it wasn’t we wouldn’t be seeing it.
The players in protest of the gold token will not win this one, because if nobody was buying gold we wouldn’t have bots and RMT to begin with.
If there are rules, but they dont get enforced, the rules are meaningless and players will cheat. Its human nature. Its Blizzards task to make rules and enforce them. Players themselves dont have that authority and effective tools to uphold rules, so the whole RMT issue is 100% Blizzards fault, because only they themselves are in a position to change it.
Shoplifting or tax evasion are against the law, but if people could be sure noone will enforce these laws and even if, the punishment is a slap on the wrist without losing the profits, people will continue doing so. Thats not the peoples fault, but the authorities, same with Blizzard and their wow servers.
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