There should be race quotas and restrictions on each realm

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Right. Weekend just started.

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Most of the time tsking away freedom in a paid product is one, breaking rules and 2) gonna kill your game.

There is no greater good in what ur stating

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I never understood the weekend comment.
What does the end of the week have to do with the qualify of forum posts?

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I’ve seen like… 5 of your posts today and they’ve all been absolutely horrible xD

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Extremely glad you don’t work for Blizzard OP.

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I wouldn’t be opposed to your initial idea, but oh boy your follow-up arguments really ruins for yourself.

Not on a social scale, where the the limits of one’s freedom should end where another’s begins.

Do you know what the consequences will be for those whom have nothing else to live for? One word, seven letters, starts with the letter s.

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Pretty sure that was Hitlers view of the world too …

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Actually, that isn’t true. Smokers are perfectly capable of air travel, even flying long distance, without suffering the effects of nicotine addiction.

We need to stop pretending that smokers are weak and helpless and ‘unable to stop’ and admit that smoking is a choice and something people do because they enjoy it. Someone who really wants to stop smoking can easily stop. Someone who continues to smoke does it because they want to.

(This isn’t an argument for or against smoking. I just wanted to inject a little realism into the conversation.)

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Your argument would only hold weight if people weren’t currently dying precisely because of those substances.
Overdose, reckless behaviour, driving drunk or under the influence - the death toll is already way too high.

No matter which choice you make, people will die.
But only one generation will suffer from losing the substance they’re addicted to.

The purpose of the ban would be to raise new generations that will never have experienced a world where it’s socially acceptable to consume toxic and addictive drugs that ruin countless lives.

That’s a pretty weak argument, if we’re all being honest.
I mean, just Google “nicotine dependance” and have a fun read.

Hitler, after waging a world war the likes of which the world had never seen before, killed 6 million people.

Cigarette kills 8 million people per year.
Drug use kills 11 million people per year.
Alcohol is 3 million people per year.

And you compare me to Hitler because I want a ban on those substances?
Are we being serious here?

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Banning stuff is really not the way to get rid of drugs. The only thing you’ll do this way is force ppl into the black market, where the prices are high and the quality bad, causing more health issues and costs for everybody. Legalizing it / keep it legal is far better together with the necessary education and professionals to monitor the consumers.

And bak to topic… that would simply cause the playerbase to be spread out across all servers or prevent many from playing, because BE/VE would more or less be locked on all servers after the first 5 minutes.

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You don’t fight an evil by adopting it.
Imagine if it was murder we were talking about, and “legalizing” murder was statistically shown to reduce the number of murders. Would you support legalizing it, then?

Now you might say: “You can’t compare drugs and murder! It’s nowhere the same order of gravity!” and you would be partially correct.
It’s not the same order of gravity. Because there are “only” 400,000 murders per year, which is significantly less than the 11,000,000 drug related deaths per year.

Unless you’re willing to do everything it takes to track and dismantle black markets.

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Yeah, you can’t but not for the reasons you mentioned. Murder hurts others, drugs only hurt the consumer themselves. One is someone making a choice for you, the other is you making a choice for yourself.

History as already proven me right and you wrong in regards to alcohol and other drugs.

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This is also inaccurate.

By hurting himself, the consumers first hurt those who love them. Nobody wants to see their children become drug addicts.
Then, because of the reckless behaviour drugs provoke, they may hurt others in car accidents like it happens too often.
Or if they’re smoking cigarettes, they may be intoxicating those around them who inhale the smoke and develop lung cancer.

Not really.
https://prohibition.themobmuseum.org/the-history/enforcing-the-prohibition-laws/law-enforcement-during-prohibition/
“The government provided funds for only 1,500 agents at first to enforce Prohibition across the country. They were issued guns and given access to vehicles, but many had little or no training.”

It was never truly enforced with the means necessary for success.

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That’s what you need the education for, not the ban. I wrote my master thesis on the topic of drugs and studied history for years. It’s not just the alcohol ban, it’s the same with other drugs or even prostitution. Illegalizing it always causes more harm, because ppl don’t stop consuming just because it’s not allowed. You’ll need far more recources to enforce a ban and enact the consequences instead of having professionals monitoring and caring for the consumers.

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We’re somewhat in agreement.
My friend, we need both.

A ban because these substances are too dangerous for it to me morally acceptable to have them freely around, AND proper education to teach people why those substances are banned in the first place.

You know that what I want is already in place, right?
It’s just restricted to specific drugs like heroïn or cocaïne. They’re illegal, and those who want to “legalize drugs” do not have those in mind.
But if you can acknowledge that banning those is necessary, then surely you can take that one additional step and accept that the others must receive the same treatment.

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And what about gaming addiction? Theres hundreds, if not thousands, of people that have died from gaming addiction (and probably some were even WoW players) - so shouldnt we delete and ban games?

I mean, not everyone gets addicted to substances to games or substances - but why take the risk?

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Not really. The figure is so small I can’t even find numbers about this.
Feel free to link anything you got though.

It’s the scale that matters.
If you close your eyes and try to imagine 1000 people in a room, it’s impossible. Let alone 10,000.
Your brain can’t even comprehend the number “10,000,000” and yet that’s how many people die every 365 days because of drugs.

Enabling this in the name of individual freedom is irresponsable, and in my opinion, borderline insane.

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Aha - so not all addictions are bad? How strange.

You’re perfectly fine with some addictions? Even if it ruins peoples lifes?

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The answer to your question lies in the second part of my previous post, which you conveniently ignored.

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Ah - are you a supporter of the CCP or the like? Tyranny, removal of human rights, freedom of expression/speech?

I’d bet you’d be popular with the CCP - or maybe with Mussolini and possibly 30’s-40’s Germany.