This is awful - Boosted gear is serverely underpowered

Immature?!

Its very immature of you to come to the forums after paying real $ to skip levels, crying that you didn’t also get good items.

Its like someone gets boosted from the “LF” after paying gold, but then comes to the forums, crying that the group who boosted him, didn’t gave him the dropped items.

But yes, you are right. Not a good look for a MMO …if someone pays real money to skip leveling.

Good point there!

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Say you have 2 people who start at the same time completly from scratch one of them buys the boost the other dosnt. One of them have bought a advantage and gear (even if its crap) over the other player that the person wont catch up on in a fairly long time, the time saved can be used to grind for gold for example.

By the first definition almost no game would be pay to win and by the second not even the worst offenders exept for maybe 1 or 2 games would be pay to win.

Fairly sure that there is new content from lvl 1 actually (there are a few scattered quests in a lot of zones that were new in tbc)

the gear is better than what op gives it credit for though but warriors are probbably the worst class to boost seeing we are dependent on our gear for most of our output.

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This game is pretty complex without any real goal or win conditions presented to the players.

Compare it to basketball, a more simple game. It’s clear that you have to throw the ball more times into the basket than the other team to win a match. If you win a lot of matches you will also win tournaments like the NBA.

So it’s not clearly defined what “winning” means in an MMORPG. Does that mean Pay to win can not even exist in an MMORPG?? I don’t think so. We could even argue that everything you can buy in an MMORPG is pay to win, even cosmetics.

What a loser, if you want the same treatment, quit your job and play all day!

No he works for the money.

Nope seeing as its my example I decide they both work equall amounts of time but one of them dont want to buy the boost.

I would say that you should get some therapy did the non boosted char touch you somewhere you didnt want it to?

Bit black and white to say those who pay for the boost have jobs and those who put the effort in are basement dwellers. I work a lot, probably more than most here but just because I have spare cash doesn’t mean I want to waste it on a function that removes the reason why your playing an RPG anyway.

I’m pretty sure there will be people on Welfare who will pay for the boost too or kids receiving one as a gift. So it’s kind of pointless to try correlate wealth to those who are using the boost.

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You’re immature and very naive. An idealist I’d say.

Ok so you pay with your time instead, it’s up to you. I don’t see the problem with that. It’s your conscious decision to spend either money or time on your progression.

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Hm.
Tanks don’t really have damage, or at least not yet. So from that perspective it’s really hard to tell whether it’s underpowered. My pally tank easily took 30 seconds to 1v1 a level 42 creature at 49. I know because it takes the full seal duration. Or a bit faster at the expense of a full mana pool per mob.

As for tanking itself - had a pally tank yesterday with the other 4 of us in fairly good gear, and it was a smooth dungeon. Arguably the tank was at risk a few times, and of course a mob or two was loose now or then. Despite him having a bit weird talent sequence and not having Avenger’s Shield yet. (Still need to bribe Captain America.)
All it took for us to give him a second or two to pull. We didn’t even think about it. Common sense.

So the bottom line, you’re a tank, people will take you, and those you don’t probably wouldn’t be fun to play with / don’t deserve you anyway.

If your realm is full of silly folks, ask a friend to quest together for an hour, I replaced most of my gear on my mage during the first 10-15 quests in Hellfire Peninsula.

Communal gear is really bad, though. Single-stat, and not even very good at that.
I suppose Blizzard tried to be on the safe end to ensure it’s really on the low end of pay to win - you bypass the level grind but you have to work hard in return.

So im immature?

Thats immature

And how is it naive that the 2 not existing people I made up for an example cant actually have the exact same circumstances in real life but one just didnt feel like buying the boost?

Nope im usally a pesimist but im atleast not a dbag about it.

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What about players who collect cool looking items to create some sort of transmog set? How they look and how others look does matter quite a lot. It’s the same thing in RL with expensive cars and expensive clothes.
So paying to look cool is pay to win in that sense.
Why should you earn your cool looking stuff with your RL currency???

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The more mobs you fight at once, the higher your dps will be as a pala tank. killing mobs one by one is just not efficient. Try to find out your limit, how big can your pulls be? With the right mobs you can almost aoe grind solo and pull 10-12 mobs that are on the same level. Then your dps will be insane.

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So you have nothing to say. Okay then.

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Good point, I suppose I may as well grab a refund whilst I still can and speak with my wallet.

So asking you a question is not a reason to replay? Damn…

At least i bring some arguments so we could have a discussion, you know, talking about the topic and hearing different opinions. Exchanging information. The point of the forum.
You basically ad nothing and nobody cares to what Brewna agrees or not.

Money speaks louder than words. If you dont like anything, you stop paying for it, simple as that.
Still playing the game? Then whatever you’re complaining about cant be hurting you that much.

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True. I’ll still be paying subs though as I tank Mythic raids for a retail guild on this DK, but at least I can get the boost service refunded