I’ve been waiting since 2 weeks before phase 2 launch for rogues to be getting buffed. And every hotfix Blizzard neglect the only «dps» class without utility.
Spending 4 hours not getting a pug for gnomer isnt fun, its waste of time. I’m overall 98 parse in Gnomer, but it doesnt hell. I’ll still du less dmg then a 50 parsing hunter, warlock, mage and shaman.
And in PVP rogues are trash aswell. For open world 1v1 sure they are great, but thats such a small part of the content.
Not getting groups for AB, WSG og STV. Yoinking 200-400 bloodcoins soloing every event or pugging «stealthgroups» while mages get 3000-4000 coins every event.
Developers destroyed the most fun class for me in the game. Thats why i’m done, for now. Might be back if you fix rogues for phase 3, but for now im out!
I swear… people are bending over backwards to validate in their heads why something should be buffed. When it was the Hunters it was “The only pure dps”, now this guy comes out w/ this verbal nonsense.
At least he is 50% delusional only regarding pvp. Unlike a ton of the others ones making laughable posts about one of the strongest pvp classes ever.
Join a Guild m8, the drama will end and you will have fun. As for the rest, like I told the other Rogues, most of you are just not good pvp players, you never were. You were just playing a VERY op class in the original game, and now when other classes have actual tools you cant roll your face over the keyboard to win. No hate, its just truth.
Because guilds think longer than on a phase to phase basis.
Rogues were great in BFD, why would a guild drop all the rogue players over night for a phase that lasts 6 weeks, while we dont know what is coming up.
I have been playing with the same rogues from start, they are getting clears every reset like everybody else. The strenght with a proper guild is commitment and investment, unlike PUGs and GDKPs where tier lists and gold talked.
Yeah, u play with the same rogues… but the question still lasts. Why would any guild take a rogue in p2? “Just join a guild” doesnt apply for rogues. Rogues that dont have a raid spot since p1 dont get an invite. in fact they dont ever get any invites for anything
I understand OP, devs are doing a garbage job at balancing and at creating content that caters to all classes.
They had some good ideas for SoD but overall they’re a terrible group of devs.
I stopped playing this rogue as well. Playing my priest until sub runs out.
How are rogues good in a 10v10 setting? Or 15v15? Even making my own premade group for wsg/ab/stv people wont join because they only want casters.
Open world 1v1 rogues are very good, but that about the only content we thrive.
I’m in a small guild with 12 friends, so i get a raidspot when i can. But when the raidhour doesnt fit my IRL schedule, getting into a pug is basicly impossible.
They dont, you missed the point of what I was trying to say. Rogues actually miss very little in PvE, the main issue for Rogue is also whats problematic for Feral. High armor, and resistances to bleeds/poisons. You dont really need raid utility if you are in the top 2-3 on dps. Having said that I am not against Rogues bringing a buff/debuff.
You are making trade chat “premades”. So ofc people wanna play whats easy and what they know is easy. This does not mean Rogues are bad. You holding down a healer during an engagement is vital for your front line to push thru. You may not survive till the end, but you still played a vital role in winning.
Now if you wanna be on the front lines, then im afraid you will have to re-roll to be efficient. Its the same reason you dont see Ferals (anywhere) but especially front lines, outside of Bear w/ cds.
So, il say it again. Rogues are not very desirable atm for PvE, thats true, but not in bigger and more organized Guilds. But PvP wise ? No, Rogues dont have a single problem, the only problem are what I said, legion of bad pvp players who are use to playing whats very op.
No, joining a guild and still being a huge liability to your group won’t solve anything. Blizzard screwed on balancing specs and runes and scaling of the gear ilvl and they did it by a huge margin. If they want SoD to be alive by the mid of this year they better be looking for more quality control of content design.
Yes this is an opportunity.
Taking the fun out of the game being a rogue tank and raidleading in my opinion. Thats just my personal opinion, i’ve always played rogue in classic, always been top performer and had a blast outdpsing most warriors in my raids. But now rogues are just a liability to the raid, getting carryed by the raid, it doesnt feel good.
Seeing the devs not showing any love to the class week in-week out. Thats it for me…
There is such a lack of content in SOD so when the raid and STV feels bad its not much rewarding.
Standing in stealth, stunlocking and oneshotting noobs 1v1 aint enaugh for me to give Blizz my dollars.
Tried Wotlk and TBC, but there you get the same problems with getting groups so i just quit.
Phase 3 is probably gonna be better for rogues as the raida get bigger with 20m and raidleaders cant really cherrypick like they do in 10m raids.
I agree. Seems like we are getting less and less balance updates as time goes by, not a good sign. I hope they don’t put SoD in maintenance mode already. Seems almost like it atm. This reset for instance should have had a balance pass for pve / pvp.
I was experiencing the same and found a solution. Focus only in pvp and smash them pve heroes with your greenies/ pvp blues . Trust me , nothing feels better than owning bis players
Yes, true. For pve raiding it’s not the best for rogue atm. Not big deal 40 lvl raid, after a while it won’t matter at all, despite that ppl are threating it as somting big, its just p2. Pvp wise rogue atm is very good for world pvp ganking, 1v1s. On Bgs you have to adapt, I found that stealing bases via cc, fast bursting, or defending working best. (I am not counting WSG, for me it’s worst bg ever)
Mass fights is always range dps/casters favoured, you have to avoid it as rogue.
STV event is very bad for melee, it’s just bad design nothing to do. As rogue I found that the best is to do it solo, just finish ppl fighting with eachother on low health, run to altar, kill some there, repeat.
I do 700+ coins if boss is near arena. Worst is if he is on the beach.
I spec to max dmg burst, no deadly brew, no deep sub three, despite what pro players say, it won’t work, because of high dmg taken, CDs are long, you have to kill fast.
Hope this helps.
Peace!
People are just bad and have zero patience for any potential setback whatsoever. Bringing a meta setup is the only way they can bruteforce the raid. Will 200 more dps allow you to completely ignore all mechanics? No, but it might be enough that you only have to deal with the mechanic 3 times instead of 4, where the 4th normally would have been a wipe.
