These changes wont affect chosing between cthun and ysharrj. Cthun is still strong, but the bug with screams not affecting pain and torrent getting buffed over and over and over …i feel like current bis build with yogg wil stay the best.
What is worring for me is the constant buffing of mf:i and making void torrent and void bolt working with pychic link. Because psychic link with mf:insanity is stronger than sear even now without the buffs…but it doesnt prolong dots like sear with talents, so its still more convenient to run yogg cthun sear…now with these changes and buffs, it looks like psychic link will dominate our aoe and sear will be used only in some wierd complex rotational bs juggling in between mf:i to prolong dots on pulls where its needed…so our complicated rotation will become even more of a headache.
I also didnt study other classes buffs and nerfs…but in aoe with these buffs i think we will kinda dominate…ill see.
i think the nice addition to our Mindgames affected by Mind flay will mean we will cast mind games more in 10.5
I think C turn and ysharrj are flavour of the month both are equally good you can do really good over all with ysharrj on less than 5 adds per pull up to 10 and really good dps with C turn on adds above 20+
I think they should go away from mind sear a bit, Personally I think they should add psychic link On to all our spells I like the gimmick of having damage cleaved imagen having it on VT and SW:P and SW:D
I think tho they should make psychic link one talent instead of two then Mind Flay Insanity would make sense to take.
As mention up above I don’t think it would be so bad to have Mind Blast affect targets with VT and SW:D affect targets with Pain would had ben a fun gimmick play for people who want to walk away from C turn and go full psychic link cleavage.
Yeah I just think they should buff psychic link to work with every spell we got in the shadow book It would had been fun would reward people multi dotting.
psychic link could been sort of like warlocks seed ability.
That’s a reason why they should add Dot application on Mind Blast to apply VT on to targets and Shadow word death to applies Shadow Word Pain on to targets It would had been fun a long side shadow crash also it would make tuning easier for shadow they could tune it accordingly.
But that is my question. Besides dots, and sw:d which needs different talent to work exactly like psichyc link…ill give you that, our entire spell book works with psychic link in 10.0.5. If we arent talking about different things by a mistake ofc
Nuh i was just talking about making PL applies damage by VT and SWP as well as Mindgames Mind Flay and Mind blast.
Would been sort of like how Affliction warlock plays then we have fun going mind bender on demand build also would help ST damage by having Mind Blast Applying VT and SW:D applying SW:P then we can cheese play with PL and Cleave with Mind Bender I kind of like the talent ysharrj.
I kind of would had love to see how having Mind blast Cost Insanity plays for those who want to play with Mind bender spam.
Oh so you wanna each tick of dot to do cleave trough psychic link? So lets say you shadow crash 8 mobs - dot them up - and each of these 8 dots would damage 8 tagets? Meaning like 64 damage events per tick? I didnt even know warlock works like this.
Not exactly but I think they could work PL in to an aura for priest that affects everything we do on to targets. Like blizzard can make much stuff happen C turn isn’t the final form of shadow I personally would love to see what they can carry over with Mind Bender cleave It’s very interesting to see what they can Improve on for people that wanna go mind bender build.
Tuning psychic link If it did damage on our Dots SW:P VT accordingly wouldn’t be hard they got the numbers.
And making Dot application on mind blast and SW:d would make it kind of chilly to play priest on moba fights when shadow crash is down.
I wonder why blizzard hasn’t though of suggestion’s towards when Shadow Crash is down.
Idk, mybe im in minority…but i personaly would like to see them make an cohesive AOE spell, spender…some nicely flowing aoe rotation…instead of making every single ability do some sort of aoe or cleave…
Theres so much cool spells that can be used as aoe spenders…like void eruption, cascade…or some sort of shadow version of frozen orb which could maybe pull mobs together - only with talents so we are not screwed in sanguine weeks, or make mindflay insanity be our spender with beam to each individual mob affected by it visible not like with link…etc…but all of this need some love in movement department because swirlies this season got out of hand…and seasonal afix making it even worse.
I think They are bound to Make dot spreading a thing for Shadow Soon becouse they can’t have it like 2007 anymore and Making Mind blast and SW:D applying VT and pain to 4 targets would be fine by me Druids applies Moon Fire and Starfire to 4 targets when they dot it close to targets why shouldn’t shadow i mean they are a dotting class
Also PL would been nice since it would elaborate the damage and help shadow a bit when mind sear isn’t ramped up also it would perhaps make the Mind bender cleave viable since priest spam SW:D and Mind blast anyway on targets Pain I don’t think is used that much.
Shadow Priest is there but its very clunky atm.
Also shadow crash should be like starfall make it rain shadow from the sky.
Well they can make mindblast spread dots to 3 nearby targets and refresh them if already present on all targets around. Coz we are already using mindblast even in aoe for 2pc and torment. Exactly how hot hand lava lash worked in shadowlands for enhancement shamans. Idk if it still works like this.
Yeah you starting to get what i mean now. Also Pain should be spread to targets with shadow word death and Mind blast should spread VT. Like It’s very simple to fix shadow and make it less clunk.
I think The Mind bender cleave is a cool ability blizzard should elaborate more on its kind of fun that Mind bender deals damage and you are making it cleave by Mind blast and SW:D i think they should make SW:D CD lower tho.
I rather prefer damage on demand than RNG on demand you never know if C Turn tentacle will spawn very unreliable.
Personally if i were blizzard I would add Mind bender as a pet and maybe nerf its cleave damage but that will probably never happen but it would had been very cool.
I think they are on to something cool they are just not there yet.
They Could make a Tentacle spec and a pet spec, PL should be a aura that makes our dot cleave.
Shadow is rather stale this season thóse buffs is kind of not noticeable.
Also why does shadow have so much buttons to push this season can anyone explain this xD
Personally why even buff Mind Spike that specc is rather dead.
All of this is great but we’re still totally reliant on shadow crash.
Yes. A cohesive spell that’s maybe potentially always up and not reliant on cooldowns or resources? Don’t say holy nova, I mean a good one Cleave is just so convenient compared to 'only damaging dotted mobs" or “only damaging mobs in a target area”. But, every single ability should definitely not cleave, no, because you do want some control of what you’re hitting.
That is actually coming, so yay? Maybe they noticed it was doing some harmless 5% damage in a lot of cases, except with better gear and buffs to single target spells that is improving greatly.
The issue with PL is you’re still not harming mobs without dots. Everything loops back to shadow crash.
PL was actually doing a LOT of damage and already a very powerful talent point for mythic+ and cleave raid encounters. The fact they’re adding Void Bolt and Void Torrent seems genuinely kind of crazy to me. And the buffs coming next week affect spells it interacts with.
Cleave is just so convenient compared to 'only damaging dotted mobs" or “only damaging mobs in a target area”. But, every single ability should definitely not cleave, no, because you do want some control of what you’re hitting.