Though shunned by the living, you tirelessly strive to protect them

Most of the fighting against other factions such as dwarves was the result of the Forsaken’s alliance with the Horde. Once they joined the horde, the alliance became their enemy:

“Concurrent with securing the immediate regions pertaining to Lordaeron, the Forsaken turned their attention to numerous conflicts neighboring their kingdom. The humans and dwarves of the Alliance, the perennial enemy of their Horde allies, remained at large on the continent. The Forsaken launched several offenses against their new enemies, resulting in the conflict for resources in Arathi (which the Defilers were tasked with securing) and a number of conflicts around Hillsbrad Foothills, Alterac Mountains and the Plaguelands arose.”

Yep, a group of Forsaken was meeting up with their still living human relatives in Arathi Highlands at start-BfA. Sylvanas murdered them for it, along with Calia.

That’s why Calia is undead now.

Agreed, I’m not defending her. I’m defending the majority of the Forsaken.

I wouldn’t say that they’re “evil” still, despite having done horrible things. War is hell, after all. People follow orders which is mostly the case for the Deathguard.

This does not mean that they wouldn’t question their leaders or the orders given.

Just look at how Sylvanas’ personal guard responds in the “Reckoning” cinematic, when Sylvanas says “The Horde is nothing!”.

The Forsaken Military definitely has a conscience and a sense of honor, loyalty and Duty.

I’d say that to be considered “evil” you’d have to be doing horrible things out of fun, for no good reason other than your sadistic or psychopathic tendencies.

Here you have the two main splinter factions of Forsaken that do most of the horrible stuff. They both have been directly under Sylvanas’ command up until the point where she betrays the entirety of the Horde in the “Reckoning” trailer.

  • The Royal Apothecary Society was created by Sylvanas purely to study and develop a new plague that could harm Undead. A sort of super-weapon against the Scourge. They also studied how to cure the original plague that afflicts the Forsaken.

  • The Deathguard is the Forsaken’s main military. They follow orders given to them by Sylvanas and her lieutenants e.g. Varimathras before he betrayed them and Nathanos Blightcaller who is arguably just as bad as Sylvanas is.

Now that Calia is in charge, I’m rather certain that both these factions will be used in a different manner to how Sylvanas used them, and that there’ll also be some restructuring.

More importantly: Why do you think this deserved a 2nd thread?

Wasn’t this one here first?

Oh was it?
If so; my bad. :innocent:

And what a niiiice bunch the Horde is…

Dw about it.

I’m pretty sure it was because I got annoyed when Benjamin opened another and I was contemplating re-posting my comments here in his new thread to clear things up there as well.

I decided against it, for now.

Well, yes. They are. They have helped save Azeroth and even worlds/people beyond. We as players play the good guys. There’s no ‘buts’, or ‘ifs’ about it.

There is a little quest, if I recall, called maybe Cold Death or something like that, that basically explains, given enough time, Forsaken may slowly lose their consciousness and devolve into a mindless state. This appears in the form of a chilling sensation, making the Forsaken feel physically cold
the quest giver I think asked for a bunch of cloths or pelts or fur, can’t really remeber to make himself (herself?) a blanket, to stay 'warm", fearing the coldness eventually consumes the mind and he become worthless…
This little quest I don’t know was ever continnued or this more or less unavoidable degeneration of the undead mind would ever adressed again - or would be
But it would be a tragic dark twist for these new undead protectors:
No matter what you do and protect the living (don’t mind the death to the living battlecry) you eventually became a mindless undead and the ones you tried to protect are forced to put you dowen, parmanently…
Sad :frowning:

These dialog are toxic and non inclusive. Good thing the Blizzard Diversity Council has finally done something about this.

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