Same here, done tons of keys, barely seen any toxic people, usually people are pretty chill, ofc you have the occasional bad apple, but thatâs life, key leavers I hardly see either, maybe 1 in 40-50ish keys someone leaves, which is whatever, I couldnt care less tbh, but reading the forums makes me think it happens always all the time and I am just lucky.
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And there we go. Hope ya got your rant off OP and good luck in the future :]
ppl line heals laser focusing on their targets behind pillars, then says some profanitys to healers, comes forums say people leave matchups and need harsher punishments, ive seen this somewhere 
I agree they arenât the norm. Most pugs just want to get the key done, even if itâs over time, for vault. A lot of people are still learning what to do.
Judging by our guild spreadsheet I did around 36 mythic plus dungeons the first week and 38 so far this week and the bulk of people are fine.
Itâs generally better if people suggest things or point out something helpful rather than going into a âyou are uselessâ kind of tyrade at others.
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Itâs funny because I donât recognise this at all. Maybe because Iâm a woman? I donât know! If people donât play very well, Iâll sigh a bit irl and just be constructive in chat if Iâve got anything useful to add. If I disengage myself off a cliff or a boss platform (obviously never happens coughs) I may grumble something poo related, and say sorry, my bad! in chat if others are involved.
I see no point in typing any swearing at a situation or people in game. None whatsoever. Just like I wouldnât do that in the real world (unless I stub my toeâŚ). And the thing is, in the real world if you go off the rails like that, people look at you wondering whether you are loopy, or might need an anger management course, or whatever.
Itâs strange how itâs been normalised in online culture. Itâs not normal, no matter how normal being frustrated or angry is. Self control, some restraint, minding your words before you spill them over others, these things are important in interactions between human beings. And yet somehow online itâs all very different. I donât get it.
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I disagree with people saying to stay quiet and just report. I think players should be told by their peers that their behaviour is not okay. Some do calm down quickly after being confronted. Of course it should be done in a manner that is polite, and not with words that can render a person getting reported themselves.
In the case of a person not calming down I vote to kick and if it doesnât pass I just leave. Even if their poor behaviour is not directed at me I leave. I donât want to be around people like that, or people who think itâs okay so they vote against kicking them. And I donât leave quietly, I politely let it be known why Iâm going and then go. I donât wait for a response.
I just think itâs really important to be clear that certain behaviour is not okay, and why you leave a group. If that happens enough times to a player they will eventually learn that acting in certain ways are likely to backfire even if they donât get punished by a GM.
I wonder, does anything even get done for people that get reported? I wish it was more like FFXIV where people wouldnât dare throw insults because theyâd just get punished, and the entire community knows this.
In this game no one cares. And I doubt they ever will. Blizzard would have to create a new MMO and enforce strict rules from the get go in order for this to work.
Iâd rather if we find a middle ground where people donât have to fear typing in chat, but still donât cross a certain line.
Plus I disagree with the notion that toxicity in pugs is an everyday problem.
That sounds absolutely lovely compared to pvp 
I did TW a while back on an alt and I had several runs in a row where people would argue with each other, blame the tank or healer for inane stuff, try to vote kick a newb and what not. Bleh!
Other runs were perfectly pleasant tho, thereâs that.
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Women are definitely more likely to choose flight over fight. The reason for this is very obvious - theyâre smaller. And even when you canât see the other person, the psychology will not be denied.
The attack is far more normal online and thatâs really a shame. But the defence mechanism is quite natural. Primal, even. If someone comes at me with a threatening attitude and big words IRL Iâll have exactly the same response of âwill I allow this person to get away with that or am I scared?â and really I think nearly everybody does. Even cats do. 
Do you actually expect smoll indi company to react and just permanently ban players like this from all the ingame chats? They already removed /spit emote to fight toxicity, what else do you want from them?
Oh absolutely! I didnât mean that tho, I meant the initial explosive reaction from the person who starts an attack in chat. Thatâs simply frustration, not fear.
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No one is suggesting you canât tell them to stop or that their behaviour isnât acceptable. They are also very likely to leave as a result. So people only tend to keep quiet to preserve the group.
However swearing at them just gives them the ammunition to report you. You see it with whispers as well. One person not breaking the rules goading the other one into saying something that is reportable.
Vote kick does not exist in Mythic Plus, itâs pug content. Ofc you can utilise this feature in random dungeons and lfr etc.
If you call that abuse you might want to avoid any source of warmth your kind tend to melt. They basically just said get good, youâre being bad, so I suppose the question I have is, were you being bad? Not doing well on damage or standing in the swirly circles?
Either that or growing up online in the 90âs and early 00âs just conditioned my mind to accept way more than any of what you just listed, I would barely even call that an insult let alone abuse.
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Yeah i hardly pvp but hear it can get heated quickly 
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Have you ever heard the expression âfighting wordsâ?
The OP got a protective instinct triggered by fighting words towards another person and decided to defend that personâs dignity against a direct attack.
The decision to do something like that can go really fast and be very heated, and therefore cursing can come out.
But itâs an honourable thing to do.
Which is why I said in the beginning: when evaluating someoneâs language, context is king.
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Those quotes are definitely abusive. If you want to communicate to somebody that theyâre not good enough to complete the objective, you can try to communicate what the problem is or even just write âsighâ lol. I usually say that Iâm sorry Iâll have to give up or something like that. No need to go full tilt and start throwing pejoratives. And this is definitely a situation where you have time to think and build frustration so no excuses!
but you do know how wow report system work right? when you say anything to people they click on it and make report of it which count as total ammount of reports done on you that gets sent as bundle for gm to inspect if there is something offensive so say you have said something interpret as offensive some weeks ago and it now gets accounted for when you have been reported multiple times for something which actually were not even breaking any rules 
this in mind it is sometimes better to not respond or think really carefully every interaction you do if you have habbit of constantly tell people like you said:
if you are sure to ever have been said anything that someone can interpret as offensive then sure you are safe, i cant be sure so i weight my interactions very carefully after seeing the ammounts of people being banned in df especially for calling cds not used in shuffles âyou had cloakâ after the people tell you something offensive, now picture yourself doing 100âs games a day with these interactions, can you be sure to always stick to correct form or would it be better to hold tongue and not reply the offender every instance, that is everyones own decision i think