Maybe things don’t work as well on the Horde side.
Definitelly not, in the peak times we have like 3-5 groups going in LFG for all end game dungeons overall. We are always in lack for tanks or healers. For questing, I rarely see someone even qued. Maybe people just want to use the tool, or the population is quite low.
Don’t stress about endgame yet.
It’s day 24.
With 1 hour a day, following Joana’s benchmark you’d be level 30.
With 2 hours a day, 40.
Some are faster, most of us slower. High layer population means being even slower.
Pretty sure the majority being 60 don’t rely on LFG like my casual self.
They may have buddies, a full group to play with, farm now to gain advantage, or play some alt to build the portfolio.
I’ve actually been worrying a fair bit about this topic, i’ve been playing in both servers.
Horde in Spineshatter, Alliance in Thunderstrike.
PVP is fun but I know i’ll get tired of it, I’ll always like PVE however.
Im afraid of investing time and effort into this server and regretting it later.
I don’t enjoy being ganked by 60s while leveling and all those impossible to win scenarios, but I’ll take that over spending hours looking for groups or seeing empty cities.
I don’t have much experience with post 60 classic servers, as I usually get to 60 and stop there, but this time I’d like to do some end game and stick around because I’m playing with friends, so I don’t really know the trend PVE servers follow, as of right now, PVE discord has around 10k members, and the PVP has around 20k, I also notice way more activity in the world and in chats in the PVP server, this might be just placebo or paranoia, but I really hope the PVE server doesn’t just bleed players to the point of being unplayable or borderline.
Historically speakin, in Classic, the PvE servers have always been smaller but more stable. Of course the dynamic is changed when we only have 2 megaservers, but the PvE population isn’t going anywhere any time soon. PvP may develop some weird balance situation despite Blizzard’s overt correction attempts like faction locks and really spiral from there. Or it may not. But PvE sure won’t.
PvE is more about being guild social and PvP is more about being a walking loot-a-rang. We are doing the Strat Live Orb RR runs but you wont ever hear about them in global. Wealth stays in the family not goes straight to ah.
Just went to Spineshatter Horde to check on how lively the chat is. Boosting. Boosting. Boosting. This is the activity i can live without
I don’t think the population will be a problem, mostly because people from HC server will transfer eventually since that server won’t progress to TBC. The faction disbalance is sonething that concerns me more.
How does that matter in any way? Alliance will exist and Horde will exist in enough numbers to use AH and form guilds etc. no matter what. And you get people from PvP realms in your BG pool so that won’t be a problem either. So what if Horde is, for example, 1/3 of Alliance? It literally doesn’t matter on a PvE realm as long as there’s couple thousand people.
Not so easy. Alliance on pvp realm can go to zero if people start leaving
Yeah.
Spineshatter Alliance is gonna cry bloody tears come jan 9th. Just one week of ranking without BGs will send even more people our way. Maybe Monkey and company will organize some form of resistance but all the small fish is cooked.
Personally i wanna see see how many Thunderstike players will participate in BGs. There is a chance that as soon as they see that there is nothing but premade of sweatlords chugging FAPs they wont ever come back. PVE is truly a sheltered existence.
One thing that has me curious is that, accordingly to current data on the PvP server, Horde seems to have more players.
Is that because has better pvp racials and is better in pvp in general?
If so it’s a bit of a contradiction no? Since i see many people praising humans because of their racials.
Orc stun resist and undead racials are more towards PvP. Alliance has Fear Ward on dwarf priest, as well as Palas with BoS which is heavily raid focused (while Shaman totems for Horde trying to close the gap).
To be fair, I can’t afford to be in a guild, because of my job, and I prefer to pug things anyway.
And I like to make my gold by boosting others, so in a funny way, you just gave me more reasons to play in the PVP server 
I think it’ll happen in the PVE as well, alliance dominates PVE and there is no faction lock, I’m willing to bet the PVE horde will end up being just a few small guilds and that’s it.
It is because alliance players always choose pve realms, while horde pvp realms. nothing to do with racials
How is it in TBC and Wrath? Are both factions in PvP or is there one that stands out?
Of course it does.
Horde has better pvp racials such as less stun for orcs, an AOE stun for tauren and a PVP trinket for undeads, horde also “owns” most of the low to mid level dungeon areas, SFK ; SM; WC; both razoerfens , almost everything up to level 40-45 is in horde territory (meaning they can easily gank alliances since allies can’t attack first), they also have easier access to these high density pvp areas such as STV.
Alliance on the other hand, has easier access to raids, attunement quests, overall an easier and more condensed leveling experience, humans are the best melee race in the game for PVE, gnomes are the best casters and dwarves are the best healers.
Obviously all of this factors in when choosing a side, it’s not a simple answer as “people that play X go into Y”, most people are like myself and play both factions and swing between both depending on what type of content they’re interested in at that moment.
It will depend how Blizzard will manage the servers. Anniversary is only one so players can’t gamify the system and create monofaction realms. This will also cause more non-PvP players to move from PvP to PvE when they aren’t given free wins in the open world 
You make a good point.
In the pvp realm & discord I see A LOT of people that complain about PVP, even after they literally press “yes i accept” when told they’ll be ganked in character creation.
I hope most don’t fall for the sunken cost fallacy and actually make the change, I hope both realms have healthy populations.
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I was talking to a guy who mentioned transfers from the HC realm, afaik that is only possible to PvE realm. And I even specifically mentioned in my post that I am talking about PvE realm. So what are you even replying to?
Yes if things go very bad on PvP realm, Alliance can go extinct, then Horde won’t be able to make new characters (and bots for cheap consumes) and the entire realm may spiral out of existance. I don’t think it will happen tho, because this time around Alliance has no monofaction realm to run to, it would take truly extraordinary events to make tens of thousands of them to quit. Like a free transfer to PvE, that would do it in a couple of hours 
So the trend changes with the expansions as to what people play either Horde or Alliance?
How were things back in TBC?