Can we get the rewards from previous pvp seasons like elite gear, enchants and mounts available?
It’s so frustrating to have so many cool mogs in the game but not obtainable. I just want to finish my mog collection and look cool.
We could get a vendor that would sell the gear/enchants for mark of honor after reaching 2100 rating for example.
It feels so unfair in comparison with PvErs. They can wait 1-2 expansions and then just solo farm the old raids/mythic dungeons and get all the mogs they wanted but PvPers can’t. Why so?
EDIT:
Glad mounts could be also obtainable after reaching 100 wins above 2400 in current season and then purchased from a vendor for lets say a few hundreds marks of honor.
BTW I don’t agree with all the people in comments saying that PvP rewards are prestige compared to raid/mythics. In fact glad mounts are just a different recolors of the same model every season. Looking at raid/mythics they get different models which seems more prestige to me.
Same with mythic and elite PvP sets which are just a different recolors of the same model. Only diff is that one is obtainable whereas the other one is not.
Both PvPers and PvErs needs to put a lot of hours into the game to get the rewards.
If a players reaches the rating/requirements for given item/mount from previous seasons then why can’t he buy it?
Wrathful Gladiator’s Ensemble is now purchasable from a vendor for 12 marks of honor which for that time in wotlk could be considered as an “elite” set as it was only available after reaching certain rating in arena.
If there would be more rewards to farm from PvP then maybe more people would be wanting to queue?
They are not comparable.
If you want to compare it, compare it to MoP challenge mode sets and legion mage tower skins.
Both of them were limited to that expansion.
PvP elite sets are Limited Time Set for its current season only.
with the current game and how “chill” the reward track is and how forgiving the “solo queue” brackets are with handing out rating, I don’t think there is any universe where it would be fair to start handing out old pvp gear.
no, solo shuffle/Bg blitz should get different rewards than normal 2v2/3v3
i can understand why most of the People want the old rewards back, like the wrath tabards/ 2.2 mop enchant, because they looked cool
but instead they should bring better rewards in retail?!
i mean look alone at the current Tabard it looks worse than a reputation Tabard
The best thing what they can do (in my opinion) is to rework the reward structure
let the r1 solo shuffle titles in the game (with the exception of tanks/prot palas remove it)
Tabard only archivable in 2v2&3v3 at 2200 rating
Elite Set in 2v2 and 3v3 at 2000 rating (solo shuffle getting a different color of the elite set than 2v2/3v3
PvP illusion at 2.1 in 2v2/3v3 but no bg blitz/ no solo shuffle (and make it cooler)
give solo shuffle/bg blitz different rewards besides of r1 title make it still worth to farm
the pvp enchants are looking so weak, and nobody is thinking “OH WOW i will grind pvp rating for it” (MAKE IT COOLER) Season 2 and Season 3 PvP illusion in Dragonflight looked cool tho, everything after it worse than a classic enchant
agreed. i swear i thought about this the other day as well that it would be good to not have tabard and illusion for shuffle.
kinda tragic how easy it is nowadays to get “elite” and “mythic” sets.
like even in pve u can just get hero gear in +8 keys, put it into the catalyst and upgrade it to 662 ilvl and u get the mythic colorway.
way too free just as the 1.8 elite set. should def change.
well it is unfair.
the elite set is just another colorway of the current season class-set, with the same special effects as the mythic version. so why is one locked and the other is not?
if u ask me both should be season locked. let people farm raidfinder, normal and hc in later expansions but mythic should be locked the same way the elite set is. that would be fair.
the mythic set is the pve equivalent to the pvp elite set. both have the same special effects to seperate them from the other colorways but both are piss easy to get.
blizz doesnt need to make new ones they could just increase the difficulty to get the existing ones to actually make them feel more “elite”.
like pve already has 4 colors. if anything i think they could strip the special effects from the 1.8 pvp set, name it rival set and make a elite set for a higher rating.
that would be alot of colors and over the top imo. id prefer one color for 2s/3s/rbg and one for soloq/bgb.
Because the season for PvP has ended but the raid persists? The prestige of the set is linked to it’s difficulty and relatively short window to get it, no? I’ve been playting for 3 weeks now and while the old sets look great I understand why I can’t just farm them. The balance and difficulty of your class/spec varies from season to season. Getting 2100 in season X is not the same as getting it in season Y.
Removing solo shuffle will decrease pvp participation drastically.
Removing rewards will decrease participation since above 1800 there is nothing else.
No one will play 3s more. It will just be a few dedicated players as before and the incentive to participate will be gone when rewards are removed and/or drastically more difficult to get.
You need 1800 for the elite sets and even with allot of losses you can get to that rating(I should know). The Mythic version you can get from upgrading HC level pieces and you can easily buy boosts to get those. There is no prestige to it. It’s just transmog at this point.
People need to understand that this is a game, nothing more than that. 99.9 % of us won’t make a living out of playing this game and the rewards are just pixels. No one will worship you for having the elite set or some illusion. At best you get a GZ in guild chat but that’s about it. This isn’t classic when an Epic was a pain to get.
So because its a recolored tmog means it have the same value when its limited time? Why do people even farm them then to begin with if the PvE ones holds the same value?
You are talking only about them being the same but recolored.
I talk about it being literally limited for a period of time which makes it more unique compared to its PvE which stays.
PvE one holds 0 prestige because you can get them later.
PvP one holds even if a little, some form of prestige for the future because it is limited to those seasons.
If you want to “lock mythic version” behind, then you need to lock the entire mythic raid.
Only thing you would do, is increase boosting.
You can prob thank the majority for that part.
They believe the game is hard so they complain until everything is nerfed to the ground.
Thankfully the bad ppl will get their one button rotation.
ye thats the point in regards to fairness.
its unfair that pvp has a time limited “prestige” set while the highest pve set is just farmable in later expansions.
well then u could also say: make every pvp reward including glad mounts 1.6k so that boosting gets decreased. like what is this argument.
but ye getting the mythic version in the current seaosn is as easy as to get 1.8k in pvp. all u need to do is get the gear in +8 keys, upgade it and put it in the catalysator.
So you want either PvP to be like PvE aka easymode whenever or like PvP where they hardlock otherwise its not fair according to you?
I would say, if they did the first option, theres a high chance for a fast influx of ppl into PvP but that will die down and even less ppl will actually play it.
You are talking about making it so mythic gear and mount should be hardlocked because its like that for PvP.
Im trying to understand if you even know the biggest difference between PvP and PvE is.
PvE dont need any “help” to keep its playerbase going since this game is literally based mostly around PvE.
Them having limited time items in PvP is to get more ppl to play it.
You want to either lock the PvE part or unlock the PvP part for it to be “fair” in your own personal standard.
I see it as perfectly fine and fair for Limited Time tmog and mounts to exist in PvP because it needs it currently to get more players to play it.
Having Limited Time Set being later “obtainable” would not be fair in any form unless they do it for EVERY ITEM in the game. But that would just make them not really prestige anymore.
I already said, that would be equal to them releasing MoP challenge mode and Legion Mage tower skins again.
If you would argue about them CHANGING the current situation moving forward, then you can argue any way you want about fairness.
But making old unobtainable items come back because you deem it “not fair”… yea.
what is so hard to get? u know what fairness means?
i say its unfair that one mode has a time limited prestige set, while the other one doesnt.
if u dont get that then i cnat help u.
that was never the reason why pvp sets are time locked. back in the day pvp was thriving and the sets still were locked. why they did that only for pvp i dont know.
what are u talkin about?
the highest pvp set and the highest pve set could be made time locked without the need to do that for every other item, like what? for these u have to play the two main modes -pvp and pve- to a certain degree of skill (even if its low rn).
i never said i agree with that and i dont. what i said is that ur statement that -nothing is unfair at all- is wrong.
like im against bringing old pvp sets back.
