I’m well aware of the skillful ways you can use Shadowmeld and thats cool and all, but is it about time this ability gets brought back down in line with everything else so it isn’t considered an essential? It has way too big impact on the game, and you can make plays with it that no other racial really allows you to. It’s too versatile.
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I agree. The fact that Blizz is going “every class for every race” will only increase the issue. Just look at how many ppl rerolled to NE warlocks…
Shadowmeld requires skill to press properly, unless you are a Rogue or Druid to use it for stealth into stun.
It can be extremely strong, or extremely useless. Outside of Rogues and Druids, it’s very situational for other classes. Warlock has a bunch of other great races to play, each offering something unique. You get brutal haste as Human, insane kiting / no pushback on casts as Void elf, insane self dmg buff + dispel of everything as Dark Iron Dwarf, even a stun knockback as Kul Tiran is great.
Overall races are decently balanced in DF for most classes. You can’t compare this to Orc Meta in SL which was the most braindead thing ever.
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It does require skill to use correctly, but that’s besides the point. I completely disagree with the part where you say it’s not strong on any other class, especially casters. It’s super strong to avoid CC on any class. The other mage just juked your poly and youre about to get poly yourself? Shadowmeld. Can go on and on. That’s just on example, it can do too much stuff. It’s so good people can’t play without it anymore once they’ve had it cause it allows you to do stuff the other races can’t. It changes the dynamic. Sometimes it might as well be an AoE earthshock interrupt in some situations when you can cancel peoples cast on you. It’s a mini cheat death too in the sense that people can’t actually apply direct damage giving you precious seconds to live.
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If you have a bunch of dots on yourself the half second window is even shorter.
I said it’s situational.
Meaning theres a lot of other good racials in the game that can be a lot better than Shadowmeld based on the situation. Shadowmeld won’t clean 10 bleeds or dots from you, it won’t remove your roots, it wont make you teleport 70 yards away and it won’t give you an aoe stun into cyclone etc. Different races are useful in different ways. Even Vulpera is super good into things like Demo warlock and bm hunter
It’s BIS for all healers because:
- You can dodge an important CC such as polymorph with it, which can often decide whether a game is won or lost.
- You can start drinking instantly. Especially potent on my Mistweaver: port behind pillar, meld, drink. I miss it on my non-Elf Mistweaver a lot.
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I thought on this forum all people cared about was Shuffle, where drinking isnt really possible 
yes ofc u can, but gnome racial gets u out of root beams, undead racial gets u out of fears, human racial gets u out of stuns, i mean theres other choices
thats why i said meld is only op in the hands of people who are very good with it, and even then it can be tricky, and it often becomes a lot more useless if u got a bunch of dots on u
I’m not saying Shadowmeld isn’t very good. I’m just saying there’s a lot of other good racials out there that you can combo with your class in equally good or even better ways
All those racials only counter one type of CC. The gnome one counters 1 spec out of like 50.
Shadowmeld counters them all.
or counters none of them if u misuse it
u can meld every hoj point blank like Mehhx, or u can press it at the wrong time into tanking cc anyway
disable all racials in player vs player combat.
shadow meld just goes way above and beyond the entire rest.
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I really like to be able to Shadowmeld and skip fights completely as any class, but it also sucks really bad that if you intend to do PvP you HAVE to choose NE for certain classes and even roles.
Also for people saying that it requires skill, it doesn’t. And even if it did, in this game skill required isn’t tied to power (look at BFA DH for example).
If it was on my hand I’d make it not dodge abilities already casted on you, but still be able to re-stealth and drop combat.
ngl: This button is so important I stop healing if it goes. That update would obviously drop healer pvp participation dramatically.
You’ve all been over-armed with stun/interrupt/CC to the point where as you said yourself, it is essential.
And you’re complaining about 1 anti on a 2min cd?
May all your queues be three hours long.
Agree in the way that racials should not play impactful role in PvP. Either delete them all or make it some additional talent to pick any racial you want.
Blizz adds so many cool looking races and nobody plays them because the racials are bad. I think this is bad design.
So let’s say soon we can get transmog as eredar. I want to play eredar lock, but why would I pick one instead of nightelf with meld or something?
Before we had the same problems with orcs, humans, blood elves etc efc
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I agree just remove racials from pvp.
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