I’ve been doing PvP for a while now when Solo Shuffle launched, it felt like a great fix: no more hunting for teammates, just queue and play. But now, it seems like it’s doing more harm than good.
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Queue times are worse than ever. DPS queues are insanely long, healers are scarce, and what was meant to be “fast solo PvP” has turned into a waiting game.
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It’s killing the other brackets. LFG is a graveyard. Solo Shuffle has sucked up nearly all PvP activity, leaving team-based content to rot.
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The rating system is demoralizing. MMR deflation, tiny rating gains, and brutal losses have turned the climb into a grind — and many are giving up.
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Class balance feels worse here. You can’t build team comps in Solo Shuffle, so you just roll the dice on what matchup you get. Which also makes it very noticeable when something is over tuned.
Honestly, I think removing (or massively reworking) Solo Shuffle might be the best thing for PvP right now. It would bring players back to real arenas, revive LFG, and restore some life to the PvP scene.
What do you all think? Has Solo Shuffle run its course, or is there still a way to save it?
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No it wouldn’t. It would just revive the boosting scene because people would go back to buying boosts to get their desired rewards.
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That’s purely speculation with no factual backing.
Even if boosting increases somewhat, overall participation would probably still rise, which is ultimately what the PvP scene needs right now.
3s is currently terrible to play i played some games last night at 2200 mmr and it was game after game the same comps not just r1 players on alts 1800xp players also it was thunder/thunder/thunder/thunder i think i went through 4-5 different thunder teams in the space of 1 hour.
its the community that is ruining the game currently.
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Yes but wouldn’t this be less off an issue when there is a MUCH bigger group of players. I wouldn’t be surprised if you are running in to the same 10 teams at that rating with the current player base.
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I ran into a lot of different teams its just the fact you can go from facing a 1800xp thunder to a 3k thunder at the same rating and im not sure it will even in shuffle people roll what is best the ammount of warriors i faced yesterday was ridiculous Thunder/wmp/ret.warr it was around 90% of the games played.
these were 1500xp players all the way to 3k all playing the same stuff and tbh it felt like playing the exact same team because of how low the skillcap is for these comps the only difference was the timing of when they sent the ridiculous damage.
If your class cant kite a warrior right now your going to get steamrolled even by someone who is much worse than you thats how strong it is right now.
I dont know who thought it was a good idea to let warriors execute 4.5 million but if you think people are going to want to play warlock or any other low mobility class like DK into these people if they remove shuffle then try it i guess i would have instantly logged off if i was not playing my mage and was on my unholy dk.
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facts, especially content creator
even if your class have mobility, a stormbolt into leap can be sometimes enough with avatar + execute proc
it´s completely tryhard to play against it.
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How about we keep solo shuffle so i can do other things in game while waiting for the queue to pop instead of scrolling down the list and hoping for an invite or a player that wants to do more than one round. Also nice is not having to scroll trough 500 WST boost advertisements.
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I like solo shuffle.
Is it perfect ? no, Neither are 2s and 3s when we take in the extra nonsense like elitism and so on.
Id like to see solo shuffle turn into 1 round per que, would solve the issue with bitter people mid-way the arena and afkers and leavers.
These are my 2 cents.
I like SoloShuffle.
I hate the LinkedIn aspect of Wow.
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More interesting than facing a constant rotation of Ele Warr, Ele DH and FMP 
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The same is true for blitz as well. All of my friends have quit because of this system. It’s designed like a slot machine.
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Just heal bro
Insta Q’s, extra rewards Kappa
Not fun for you too heal? Maybe there is the problem that Blizzard should address
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Nothing can revive 3s beside removing shuffle AND bringing back % base rewards cause if you remove shuffle (they won’t ever) people won’t play at all since last 2-3weeks once mmr is ‘’ chill ‘’.
Like said above the issue of pvp is mainly the playerbase, people want to get free stuff, aka play most forgiving and broken specs/comps and everybody think they are glad while they aren’t.
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Healer point of view here :
Make it 1 round
Remove dampening
Remove draws…
Stop separating healers off mmr. We are not different animals…
Then i will maybe que
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(plus mmr doesnt really work with shuffles/blitz as it worked with arena)
Something like warlock is terrible in shuffles when it gets trained round after round while barely get any help from anyone unlike in 3v3 when they build team around their warlock to support it, it becomes playable and game can be even enjoyable. Meanwhile classes like retribution and the like dont have this problem in shuffles and they can just faceroll it with ppl doing whatever in their team which points out an obvious problem related shuffles if there are classes that are more unplayable than others on its design.
Everything checks out, the mode is bad for the game and did more harm than good. Even made some amount of healers reroll dps cause frankly healing just sucks now, theres no point to heal this game with these modes. I hope there is not people still defending the mode or thinking that its doing something good for pvp. The way shuffles were added in game was a big mistake.
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BGB is unhealthy and so is solo shuffle and it lowers the overall feeling of the rewards since you can just monkey through most of it in greens due to player skill not becoming relevant till 2.1k+ and even then…
A majority of my bnet friends have quit since solo shuffle got released. Not sure if it’s due to the actual game mode completely destroying PVP, or if it’s Blizzard’s changes to M+ playstyle that led to all unsubbing. Maybe right now a solo Q into the normal ladder of 2s and 3s would be the best solution. LFG is exactly that anyway, just with more effort. As a healer, it’s not like I care what comp I play when the game is pure PVE. Team comps are not as important nowadays, unless you are pushing r1 because then you probably need some decent meta setup still. Could even make some selection for the casuals that believe they are rating capped due to unfair comps, so they only group up with the desired classes.
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Ppl buy boost for shuffle and blitz too, dont know why we would base argument between shuffle and arenas based on people that buy boost no matter the mode. This topic seem to be about shuffles design and the way its add to the game to harm arenas, argued being bad for the game, personally I only agree with that. I make no decision on where I would like to play based on where people are buying boost, they buy it everywhere.
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what do you mean go back to literally ads everywhere for boost in solo shuffle the bracket is riddled
I honestly feel bad for any that boost shuffle or blitz, cant be fun pushing some through elo hell mmrs with entire team without even any basic addons, I think I would rather make hamburgers for a living 