Today is game time ends and for the first time I won't come back for for a new expansion - here is why

[Aurelyius-dragonblight]

See you on the release date.

[Starla-aerie-peak]

@Athena-stormscale

For the first time in the history of World of Warcraft I won’t be around for an expansion release and I do not feel bothered.

It sounds to me like you are bothered and upset with the game. Which is understandable if you have played it for a long time and it keeps failing to meet expectations.

Blizzard are attempting to cater to players who enjoy vastly different content, and somehow managing to gradually upset a number of them one time or another.

@Athena-stormscale

The story has to be improved on all sides of the game. Most green quests in WoW are a joke. There is no reason why there cannot be good quests stories…

I also enjoy quest stories where we get to spend time and know the NPC characters a bit better.

Flynn and Taelia were likeable and helped drive the story along in BFA. This was taken forward (not enough imo) during SL.

Finally Blizzard have given up on the Mad Warchief theme - Hopefully not just switched it to Alliance…

Simple quests collecting murloc, spider and bear parts started in Classic (which was popular) and still is for players wanting to quickly finish repetitive dailies.

Maybe there could be an option for players to opt into long or side questlines giving special cosmetic rewards and RP gear ? (Instance players get specific items for the content they do).

I think part of the problem is due to a laser like focus on the endgame area almost to the exclusion of all else.

So players end up running around the same bit repeating the same stuff for a long time to grind the latest currency or gear, before it goes away or is hard to get.

Eg) Shadowlands - Anima which fuels most open world progress, the best place to get this was going giddy around Zereth Mortis. Doing quests in the covenant areas rewarded much smaller amounts. No other outdoor quests/activities in the rest of WORLD of warcraft offered any either that I know of, so no other options there.

@Athena-stormscale

The new player experience is a joke…

It has been worked on, but could be improved imo. I can see why BFA was chosen for them (bar dungeons). Some of the questlines need an ‘ology’ in Wowhead to navigate…

I would love if there was an option in game to choose a racial pathway, where quests relating to your race are offered in a logical order explaining key development and stories.

[Zokysp-outland]

As you hinted in your post, OP, a lot of the people that had any integrity quit the game long ago and so in the mix the Blizzard sycophants and true addicts become more noticeable. That is why you will see people in this thread that feel personally insulted when you attack the game itself.

I think my biggest wake-up call to how low the standards the people remaining have as a whole have was when they made “Dark Rangers” playable. Somehow the cattle will open their mouths obediently at any little scrap Blizzard throws at them. Now we will never have an actual Dark Ranger class, imagine if DKs and DHs were just blue and green eye skins.

Best of luck to you, OP. I find the game can still be enjoyable if you make your own fun, but if you expect any actual innovation or decency from the side of Blizzard, it was time to leave long ago.

[Darkvil-nagrand]

Phew thank goodness you came here to tell us all your reasons for leaving and not just leaving with a bit of dignity.

Stay leave no one cares its your personal choice doesn’t effect anyone else do whatever you want. Unless its just an attention thing ???

[Kiyouraah-twisting-nether]

@Ussrainblood-doomhammer

You see that community is immature and toxic,

I see that by looking at your name.
Don’t need to know what you typed to know this.

[Kiyouraah-twisting-nether]

@Mílkmé-argent-dawn

@Mílkmé-argent-dawn

@Athena-stormscale

For the first time in the history of World of Warcraft I won’t be around for an expansion release and I do not feel bothered.

What WoW needed was a revamp of the game but instead we are just getting the usual. The player base is at an all time low and more than ever people aren’t really interested in what is “new” in the new WoW expansion. We will just get a couple of levelling areas, quests that will be skipped, mounts/pets/reps for the casuals to grind and of course the raids and keys.
Financially WoW is a huge failure and most of the player base are just here because of habit. They wouldn’t quit the game even if there was no content for a year which was proven last year during the content drought.
The people who actually matter are the ones that are not here anymore because they had some kind of standard but they won’t come back either since nothing changed.
The fact that there is a 12 month promotion now is also evidence that Blizzard is not planning to release frequent patches and even is forecasting a content drought again so they’re getting their sub money in while everyone is hyped and excited.

This is what should have happened to the game:

• Significantly better quest storytelling. Clicking an NPC and then clicking accept is incredibly outdated and most people just skip the quest because it is mind numbing to read a paragraph that ultimately tells you nothing. Quest text should be more similar to the talking head and quest NPCs should use emotes including different camera angles.
• The story has to be improved on all sides of the game. Most green quests in WoW are a joke. There is no reason why there cannot be good quests stories. Other MMORPGs have green quests that stimulate your brain and make you think but in WoW we get nothing more than “i want to feed people, bring me meat” or “i want to cloth people, bring me cloth”. It’s 2022.
• The main story in WoW may or may not be good, nobody really knows until the new Bellular video comes out. The way the story is told in WoW is absurd and unrealistic. In the real world people have emotions and feelings but in WoW everything happens on a whim and most of the actions of important story characters barely makes any sense, it just happens. You never get to see any of them from a different angle or understand why they do things that they do. Add quests that let us experience the human side of important characters so we can relate more to them like the Jaina questline in BfA. Instead of Thrall sending me off to talk to the most important elemental in the world I want Thrall to send me off to pick up his robe and when I get there I want him to be there and say a few lines about his growing up or whatever. When we were in Kul Tiras we should have visited Jaina’s old room and learned more about her past and what she did as a kid. It makes those characters feel alive but instead they are nothing more than celebs in WoW who give us orders.
• There has to be more content in WoW that is not connected to the usual hamster wheel of grinding CE achievements or mounts. Stop using the exactly same seasonal content and make new content for every season. It does not take a lot of effort to make new questlines and rewards and throw the old stuff in the store. People will love having to play to get new rewards like transmogs/pets and if you didn’t have time you can pick it up at the store if you want it so badly. Other games do this and absolutely nobody minds because it means more new content every month or two.
• The new player experience is a joke and if you don’t improve this then a random executive will pop up one day and just order for the game to be shut down because the profit WoW makes is laughable at this point and the executive won’t care about the bit of money it makes during expansion releases every 2 years. New players want to see the old worlds. Make a storyline that drags new players through all expansions so they do at least the important story quests. Make small 1 man dungeons for them so they can fight the important bosses like Illidan or the Lich King. Nobody wants to start a new game and then be thrown into the most recent expansion irrelevant of what the addicts here want to believe or say. You also need to make all dungeons scaleable so that you can run them at any level and simply get scaled down. Why should a level 60 not be able to queue for Deadmines and be level 15? What if I just feel like it? No I don’t care that my “friend” can invite me and scale my level down and then queue. This has to be an option for anyone at any point. You also need to make a queue which includes all dungeons of all expansions that you can use at max level with special Call to Arms rewards. So if some low level wanted to run a WotLK dungeon but there are no healers the level 60 healer can hop in. I don’t understand how this is not in the game yet. You can offer gold as reward or make some cheap transmog that you get after 1000 runs. Collectors will gladly farm it and never use it.

These are just some of the things that should have been changed about this game and it is very disappointing that after all those stunts like the 200 dev hiring last year this game just continues to be milked for pennies.
The only reason for Blizzard’s negligence that I can think of is that they are working on a Warcraft mobile game in the form of Genshin Impact where you essentially do the same thing you are doing now but instanced. Since player interaction is dead outside instanced environments in WoW this wouldn’t even be an issue.

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[Gregoriostyr-rajaxx]

“I do not feel bothered.”

Well. Im utterly confused by this whole thread. I seriously dont know what to say anymore… Did GenZ and the whole twitch streamer craze, change the meaning of “not being bothered”? because everything in this thread screams like, I DO BOTHER AND I WANT YOU TO THINK, WHAT I THINK. AHH I NEED ATTENTION.

… and that twiggs guy is definitly a LIARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR XDDDDDDD.

[Ixyion-blackhand]

Twitter is the other way XD

[Äbõmiñatiõñ-ravencrest]

You can have your opinion and be wrong. everyone likes different flavors of ice cream doesn’t mean they are wrong or right.

[Aetomic-eonar]

Who wants to know your bs? Playing wow since 2005. I dont let my way of seeing the game being influenced by “youtube content creators”. I think you did by reading your way to long text. We dont care if you stop playing wow. Hate all those people on youtube being positive about new expension and when it almost gets launched being negative. That is purely done so they dont run dry. Wow is something bigger than just a game and I love every bit of it! Bye bye we wont mis you because you were never a real part of this community.

[Kiyouraah-twisting-nether]

@Äbõmiñatiõñ-ravencrest

different flavors of ice cream doesn’t mean they are wrong or right.

We all know the one and only flavor off ice cream is Vanilla.

All others are like a fruit pizza.

[Robokiller-pozzo-delleternità]

@Kiyouraah-twisting-nether

All others are like a fruit pizza.

eh, The remake of the fel flavour was not bad at all.

[Ussrainblood-doomhammer (Ussrainblood)]

Another perfect example when I ll want your opinion I’ll ring you you’re Athena ?

No you are not ,so swallow your bile and ingest it and keep your state of mind for your self 'because I do not care, touched “again” :they didn’t walk they ran into the net !

[Yoinka-argent-dawn]

I mean, if they are trying to shove a 12 month sub down your throat right before a new expansion…

… YOU KNOW IT’s GONNA BE BAAAAAAAAAD

[Zoukulu-earthen-ring]

@Athena-stormscale

The people who actually matter are the ones that are not here anymore because they had some kind of standard but they won’t come back either since nothing changed.

OMG!! How will we cope if the ‘People Who Matter’ are no longer here!!??
There will be rioting on the streets, mayhem and chaos, end of days…

Meanwhile back in Azeroth people are happily enjoying the game the way they want to.
But good luck to the ‘People Who Matter’, I hope they are enjoying whatever they are doing now…

[Elvewynn-ironfoe]

Im also out. Blizzard has destroyed a perfectly good game, but the last straw was this hysteria about emotes, images in game and genders… americans really are insane.

[Breghan-argent-dawn]

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I am defending simple logic , not the company i couldn’t care less if there are 10 mil players or 1 .
If wow really doesn’t your direction just quit because projecting your qq isn’t actual feedback it’s called venting .
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Your defending nothing and nobody other than yourself for a very simple reason: you feel offended by how somebody has experienced the last bunch of works from Blizzards side.

[Kitiaara-argent-dawn]

Please, everyone who is leaving form an orderly line, take a number and donate their gold, crafting mats and pets to someone who stays and enjoy the game.
Bonus points if you donate your name too!