Too many buttons? (Thank you all)

Classes Monk
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I need some help regarding Monk’s buttons.

I am leveling a Monk as Brewmaster to be my tank, however I was swapping specs just to check how they worked, in case I wanted to heal or DPS with either, and I felt overwhelmed by the amount of buttons/abilities I had, specially in MW but also in WW.
I mean, I am a Hunter main, and Hunters (MM) are the ones that usually complain about “too many buttons” yet I don’t have any trouble there, maybe because I am more familiar with the class and I have my setup all figured out and neat, but idk, MW and WW Monk, to me at least, feel much more cluttered.

So, my question is, for either MW and WW are there abilities that can be ignored and left out the bars? Either in PvE or PvP scenarios.

To cut on some buttons I did a couple keybinds for MW where I had dmg abilities coupled with healing abilities, which would change on the type of target (harm/help), but since I can’t target myself unless I press my portrait, those macros felt kinda useless in solo scenarios like leveling, wPvP, etc…

Any tips to deal with this amount of abilities?

Thank you.

P.S. Regarding BRM Monk I don’t find any issues with the amount of buttons btw, got it all setup fine.

Edit:
Ok guys, so after all your suggestions and help I started messing around with my setup, took every ability out of the binds and started placing them again, and trying out stuff based on your suggestions. So far seems good, gotta test it out further, but I guess this was a good start already.

Thank you all a lot for the help.

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I have a feeling you don’t really use modifiers? Shift, ctrl, alt. Or maybe not enough of them?

Cuz I have everything binded. Even things like mounts (3x of them), food, flask, pots, some chat macros, focus macros (2x), tomes, hs, quest items, extra action button, changing specs, and target and world markers.

Right off-the-bat, I can recommend Opie addon. With the rest, ima wait to see what you say.

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You must improve these harm/help macros:
add [mod:shift,@player] to the help part, so you will have two conditions. It is possible to have more than 1 trigger/condition in a macros for each alternative.

/cast [cond1][cond2]Spell1;[сond3]Spell2;…

There is also a selfcast modifier in the interface settings. I do not use it and rely only on macros with @player. I suppose this interface option is for people who avoid writing macros.

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I use Shift and Ctrl on Q E R F, plus 3 mouse buttons. And then 4 mouse buttons with the Shift modifier. So total 29 binds.

Gotta take a look at that then. Might help.
As for the shift version you mentioned, I already use shift as one of the modifiers.

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Use alt or ctrl then. Generic mice are bad for wow. You need at least 6 or better 8 extrabutton mouse. And even in this case you will have to use modifiers. And monk is not special. Pet managing classes such as warlock also suffer from abilties overload, and any so called hybrid as well.

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I use a mouse with 16 side buttons, but i still use modifiers. Monk and rogue are the only classes that need so many buttons.

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I like having everything binded but you dont really need your ress, taunt (in ww and mw) and zen pilgrimage i guess. Crackling jade lightning is useful for pulling mobs and keeping people in combat in pvp since it has 40y range so i would keep it binded.

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Speaking of which, does it even do any significant damage in any of the specs? Or is it’s usage limited to just pulling mobs and keeping people in combat?

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As a monk main I used to have an MMO mouse that did most of the legwork for me, but it broke and I’ve been using a regular mouse since, so I have most of my extra buttons bound to Shift and Ctrl now. It’s really tough and I’m definitely considering getting an MMO mouse again sooner rather than later, but for now I have to make do.

My main hotbar goes like Q, E, R, V, and then 1 - 6, then my final two buttons are wired to two extra buttons on my mouse, these slots are wired to Crackling Jade Lightning for fast pulls and whatnot, and also Vivify. Second hotbar is the same keybinds, but with a mix of shift and ctrl modifiers.

Also I use the original UI because I hate the UI addons even more. My life is torture :slight_smile:

Long story short: Highly recommend an MMO mouse, it will give you less trouble when playing button-heavy classes like Monk, Hunter and Lock. If that’s not an option - get used to using modifiers and I promise it will make your life a little bit easier.

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Well my mouse is almost that. I mean it has 5 extra buttons, when comparing with a normal mouse.

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Good start! But look up the Razer Naga - THAT’S the kind of mouse I mean!

(You can obviously get much cheaper mice than that, but that’s the first example that popped into my head.)

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It’s also nice to use your extra buttons on your mice as modifiers so it acts like a shift or ctrl by setting to F5 or something. Then use this modifier with the rest of your keyboard. By doing this you make atleast 10 extra binds which are easy to reach and not just 1 extra bind.

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I’m still at work but I have been thinking, based on what people have been saying, and I guess with my “limitations”, I will simply have to re-invent my setup for Monk. You see, the setup I built comes from the experience of playing mostly Hunter, so I changed it with time and refined it to suit my needs/goals. Because I like to keep the same type of spells in the same binds between each spec/class (to make it an easier transition between them due to muscle memory) I had little to no problems by using the same basic setup in Rogue, Warrior and DH, with little to no changes needed.

However Monk is such a different beast, mainly in MW because of all the healing spells, that using the same base setup just doens’t do it. I’ll have to let go of the mold I built and start from scratch with Monk. Already have a few ideas on what I’ll do different.

Also, same here ahah.

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That unfortunately is probably what you’ll have to do :sweat_smile: When I first picked this game up monk was the first class I tried and I’ve stuck by it so I’ve had a decent amount of experience with how overwhelming it is, especially in terms of keybinds. In fact when I tried other classes later I was like “Where’s all the skills!?”

I’ve finetuned my binds over time to suit me and the changes in my setup, but it’s mostly stayed the same - either an MMO mouse or lots of modifiers, or best case scenario, bits of both depending on what’s more comfortable for you at the time. Monk is one of those classes where the keybinds HAVE to be perfect for how you play or your experience is awful - some people like that about it but I find it to be a pain. I love the class too much to change at this point though!

Do lots of experimenting, take your monk into semi-challenging fights and see how easy you find it to hit the buttons you need to, and change things until it just clicks into place for you and begins to feel effortless. Also, remember there’s an option to set character specific keybinds in the keybinding menu so you don’t have to lose your setup for other characters!!

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Well guys I think I figured out what to do regarding the issue I was having, specially with MW.

Thanks again for all the tips, you all helped in some way or another.
Cheers.

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there was a legendary in legion that will also be in shadowlands that buffs it damage up to 2000% but i’m not sure how viable it is

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Wanted to make a Sith mog with the glyphs who turns Jade Lightning red. But if the ability does little to no dmg idk if it’s worth doing the mog as the key ability of it will have little usage.

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I use + shift mod on then all:
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Just try and feel whats right for your fingers and what content you want to pair with.

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