Imagine floating into darkness, being in limbo. Confused, shocked, emotions running wild in your mind after suffering a violent death. Your mind is very open to suggestion. Then a voice starts creeping in your head, offering you a chance to get out of this terrifying situation.
Alone, freightened, you accept. Too late you realise what you just did. The mind is a strange thing, and it will fool itself into rationalising a choice it knows it was the wrong one.
Why those Night Elves accepted their new fate and sided with the Forsaken can be explained in so many ways, and note a single line from the Valâkyr when you do the quest and try to raise one of the elite NPCs: âNo willing souls are present here.â and also some come back as angry wisps when you try to raise them. Not to mention the last wisp-soul that shows clearly that it is confused and lost.
Bad writing? No. Not well presented or shown/explained in detail? Yes.
But thats not been the Nelf afterlife for ages. Set in the heavens as stars, and all. If suddenly all the nelf afterlives suck this badly, thats a mighty convenient retcon.
Cool, except the Night Elves werenât cursed with undeath to serve - they were offered. Some accepted, some didnât.
Apparently we now think so much and simultaneously so little of Night Elves that theyâre utterly all self-sacrificing that they would never switch sides if it meant the chance to live again. There are no selfish Night Elves who are really out for themselves, who would prefer to live on as undead over the oblivion that awaits them in death.
Per Scorchbraid, all Night Elves would rather GREATER GOOD stay dead I guess.
Nope because Night Elves absolutely did strike back against the Horde, including wiping out 1/4 of the Forsaken reproduction capabilities.
So if you can now offer people undeath all of a sudden, why did they never do that with humans, instead of raising them whether they want to be or not?
I canât say about that. Indeed many things have been retconned in the last couple years, and the Shadowlands are now a thing soâŚ
My whole point is; Night Elves being raised as âForsakenâ and turning on their former people can be explained and make sense by looking into the personality and motivation of each one and the circumstances of their death.
As if that little ValâKyr loss is ever gonna impact the storyline in any major way. It exists just so people can go âNo, you didnt fail spectacularly! You managed to kill the glowy angel woman! See?â
Even though weâve had this same conversation time and time again over Discord and youâve proven each time that youâre really incapable of any kind of objectivism, Iâll bite.
Itâs not a âFoRsAkEn PoWeR fAnTaSyâ. Tyrande promptly oneshots a Greater Valâkyr, effectively neutering 1/4th of all the Valâkyr in the Horde. All the Lesser Valâkyr bound to Brynja are now gone.
And seeing how her valâkyr are now dropping like flies and Sylvanas has precisely 3 left â the amount she needs to cheat death one last time if it comes to it, she canât really keep any of them on the frontlines anymore to raise people. Well done Tyrande, you single handedly crippled the Forsaken and their main means of warfare.
If it was going to be a steamroll of night elves suffering absolutely no losses what so ever, the story would have been incredibly . Blizzardâs story writing is incredibly cheap as it is with all these power creeps theyâre dishing out ((but my Horde bias!!!)) and I really donât think they should cheapen it further with "And then the night elves killed everyone and wouldnât suffer any losses because they are so good and I love them "
I really like the night warrior story for the night elves. If I had time to play more than one character, Iâd do something interesting with it instead of crying in every discord channel and forum thread over how Iâve been personally wronged by Blizzard. I canât believe Ion hates you this much, Scorchbraid-Argent Dawn.
From what I can tell it seems to be a unique aspect to raising elves, given Lorash (where is he?) and his datamined dialogue about the offer from the valkyr.
Itâs one of the four remaining pact valkyr that Sylvanas has. One more gone and she loses her extra life, which might be a little bit relevant when everyone believe sheâs being geared up for raid boss status, yes.
Well, there are 3 remaining (not talking about lesser valâkyrs), so I expect that their existence/elimination in the future will be a result of some massive lore climax.
Honest question - if the Alliance soldiers wore wills that said âif I die, donât raise me, plskthxbaiâ do you think the forsaken would at all care?
Donât deflect the question, now. The forsaken are supposedly all about free will. Do you think that free will extends to becoming forsaken or not to begin with in this instance?
And yeah itâs totally an internal horde contract if itâs an Alliance soldier wearing it
. Blizzardâs story writing is incredibly cheap as it is with all these power creeps theyâre dishing out ((but my Horde bias!!!)) and I really donât think they should cheapen it further with "And then the night elves killed everyone and wouldnât suffer any losses because they are so good and I love them 
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