Any popular Hotspot is.
Except other races have more than 5Minutes of bad lore.
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You do remember that they are Blood Elves who got almost turned into Ethereals and saved at the last moment by Alleria, so they adopted the name âVoid Elvesâ and took up Alleriaâs offer because they had nowhere else to go as Silvermoon âturned their backs on us long agoâ as Umbric says.
They donât really need more lore to explain what and who they are. A group of Blood Elves who looked into forbidden arts, got exiled for it, didnât stopped, and payed the price for their curiosity.
And their reason to join Alleria is simple and straightforward enough. Uuuunlike some other purple Elves who joined the Horde because some other purple Elf was mean to them. Looking at you ThalysraâŠ
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Weird way to phrase âWe got told to cut out our research and then we didnât and then they eventually exiled us because we didnât listen to them and oh whoops I see why they told us not to research this but oh well weâre gonna keep doing it anyway.â
I do think Umbricâs version was shorter, granted, but it lacks nuance.
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Oh Umbric and his dudes sure had it coming. Youâd think after all that happened with Kaelâthas and all heâd know better not to touch that evil looking book at the darkest corner of the evil looking library labeled âEvil Magic - Do not open!â.
But my point is that Void Elves donât need extra lore regarding their introduction to the forefront. Or further backstory. Maybe later they can go deeper into Umbricâs psyche and ambitions, but as far as intros go it was enough.
Edit 2: Though we do get an insight, though brief, into his thoughts during the search for him and his group in the Ghostlands with Alleria via reading the journal entries and notes he left behind.
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As soon as Drathir was mentioned I was like âshouldnât this be a good sign to back awayâ?
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Same way Kaelâthas and Rommath didnât backed away when Illidan said âoh hey, this is how you can suck mana out of living creatures and demons! Donât worry, Iâm sure nothing bad will happen if you magic addicts who are desperate start sucking fel out of demons. Trust me! Would this face lie?â
I donât think thatâs very comparable. The blood elves were far more desperate at that point. As a comparison, the blood elves never really needed the void, and evidently do perfectly fine without it to this day.
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It actually gives more legitimacy to Rommathâs character to be so paranoid about the Dark Arts as he has seen what going too deep into them can lead to.
Umbric believed that the Void can be harnessed and used as a source of additional power to strengthen the Blood Elvesâ position in the world. Rommath, having heard all that crap before knew better I guess.
But again, my point is that Void Elves didnât need an expansionâs worth of content to get established in the setting. They are Blood Elves who went too far, almost got killed and were saved the last second etc etc.
Now, do they âfitâ with the Alliance? I donât know, do Worgen fit in with the Alliance? Half-wolf beasts who keep themselves in check from eating everybody around them thanks to some convenient Night Elf ritual? Do Dark Iron Dwarves fit? A Dwarven Clan whoâs been at war with the other two great Clans for centuries, are known to employ dark Sorcery, and for a very long time were servants of Ragnaros?
You tell me!
Itâs not even that he âheard all that crap beforeâ â the presence of Void elves was going to defile the Sunwell, as we see in the Nightborne scenario. Rommath said that he warned Umbric that this is exactly what was going to happen if they didnât stop, so he had no choice but to exile them. Alleria validated it.
They were a threat to all high and blood elves on the planet if they remained in Silvermoon.
also this is just plain wrong and people should stop regurgitating it
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I was more taking the piss at it but failed to word it right. Still her reasons were not more valid than Umbricâs. It did though played a part in the First Arcanistâs decision, and really can you blame her for not quite wanting to be around someone who was very hostile towards her and her people.
Of course it did. But thereâs more to the whole story than just âTyrande was mean to Thalyssra one timeâŠâ as some people often keep trying to down play it to.
Though I know youâre just taking the piss, but Iâm going to type this out as a reference (againâŠ) to whoever else might be reading. The following bit isnât aimed at you.
In the introductions, Tyrande goes to insult Thalyssra straight to her face, trying to one-up her by stating she knows what side her order took in the War of the Ancients. Thalyssra and her order stood with the Kaldorei Resistance and single handedly saved their entire race from extinction, despite the fact that Tyrande and the Priesthood decided to sacrifice Suramar to the Legion.
The only person who betrayed anyone in that conversation during the war was Tyrande. Thanks to that betrayal, Suramar was used as the experimentation grounds for creating the Proto-Scourge. In spite of this, Elisande rallied the survivors and destroyed the second invasion point opening up in the Tomb intended to wipe out the (by the time) failing Resistance between two fronts.
Next in the introductions Tyrande states to Thalyssraâs face that sheâs only there to destroy the Nightwell âno matter the costâ. Otherwise a really powerful comment that asserts her dislike of them, but she also acknowledges in the same breath that the Nightwell is the only thing keeping the Nightborne alive. A fact she really liked to rub into Thalyssraâs face with the insult.
So we have a person who betrayed Suramar and left them to be tortured by demons, contributing in the Dreadlords perfecting the art of necromancy and thus allowing them to create the Scourge in the future. These betrayed people then go on to literally save Tyrande and the world, because itâs the right thing to do. And despite all of that, the first thing she says in 10,000 years is âYour lives are meaningless and I am willing to let you all die as collateral damage to accomplish my goalsâ.
Any sane person wouldnât treat that person as an ally, or anything short of hostility. Nightborne have plenty good reasons to ally with the Horde and go to war against the night elves, because so far all the night elves have to show is that if it were in their power, theyâd realistically want Suramar to suffer the same fate â even before Teldrassil. They sure tried once already.
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Pretty much, all that.
I should bookmark that because this is probably the 7th time I explain this on the forums. Easier to link that in the future.
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Donât bother. People still think Death Knights âdonât have any emotions and are just weaponsâ after 10 years of several people (including myself) have been saying and posting evidence to the contrary.
Some people just donât want to listen. Or read. Or think.
Late here but ugh, Undead Forsaken whatever NElves ![:ok_hand:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/ok_hand.png?v=6" ":ok_hand:")
You get back in the lab. How did you get out again?
Someone left the door open and and and 8( I want freedom sometimes⊠I get lonely.
Thatâs actually interesting Syl. I knew Void Elves were rejected Blood Elves, but thatâs about it. I do admit I find too feminine looking models not appealing to role play, but I do respect their place in the game.
Still after having read all of your (awesome!) explanation, I canât see why the race is so popular. The only thing that makes sense to me is that most people want to look at a boy-/girl and looking character that fits modern beauty standards and can easily encorporate arrogance which is frowned upon in our society.
Please add me Sylmarien I have a lot more question if youâre OK to assist
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Void Elves fit because QuelâThalas continues to go down a path of ever increasing fundamentalist thought (thanks Light infused Sunwell) and is becoming increasingly intolerant to dissent. Instead of embracing unorthodox tactics (which could win a war against the Alliance) Lorâtherwho decides to exile more of his people, and publicly declaim one of their nationâs greatest heroes.
The Alliance actually pulled the politically savvy move of recruiting the Void Elves, not just for their power over the Void but consider the amount of raw intelligence that might have slipped now out of QuelâThalas.
Also it plays to the Allianceâs universal charm by having both the Void and the Lightâs champion incarnates (Lightforged + Void Elves) working under their banner.
Worgen fit in the Alliance because Gilneas was an original member. Genn is officially Anduinâs heir until he is married and has a child - so yes, the Worgen fit in perfectly fine, more so than the Forsaken in the Horde in fact.
Undead humans fighting alongside the same savage monsters that invaded them - Orcs, Trolls - who humanity has NEVER got alongside with and the Elves that abandoned them in their hour of need. It speaks absolute volumes that their greatest voice of support was from Magatha Grimtotem.
The Dark Irons fit in because Moira is the mother of their Emperor, who is both the heir to the Bronzebeards and the Dark irons. The Twilightâs Hammer has lost itâs influence over all of them bar a fanatical cult dedicated to resurrecting Ragnaros.
I mean it makes more sense than the Zandalari joining the Horde, the same Zandalari who were quite content with attempted world conquest over the span of two expansions. Zandalari who are incompatible with Pandaren in the Horde. Zandalari who the Blood Elves fought hard against on the Isle of Thunder. Zandalari who Volâjin hated and would never trust.
Rastakhan a brutal dictator who quite willingly let his second in command essentially preach âOne (Troll) Empire, One (Troll) People.â And resurrect one of the most infamous tyrants of the ancient age.
I think the mirror needs to be given to the Horde and their composition over the Alliance. a Dark Mirror perhaps.
So⊠why are you giving them money for your sub, then?