Not a pro or anything but was just wondering what other people think. I play mainly caster classes and play pvp only, it used to be fun and rewarding using your toolkit to succesfully kite a melee but punishing if you didn’t use your toolkit well enough cause they’d have too much up time. Ever since DF launched with the new talent trees it feels like melees are just impossible to kite.
Opinions?
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Play melee - You can’t be stopped. Turn off your brain and hit 2-3 buttons over and over until target is dead. Don’t think about defensives a lot. Most is passive anyway.
Play caster - You can’t do anything 90% of the time. Get in perfect physical and mental condition before loging on, get your Phd ready. Play perfectly with your 10 button rotation using all utility and defensives perfectly, tracking all abilities and cooldown on the entire map, changing talents every game/round and hope it’s enough to stop the infinite mobility, infinite CC, constant sustain dmg and huge + RNG burst of the melee. Who, like we said, can’t be stopped.
Good luck!
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Yes and it’s horrible unless you are an experienced caster at lower brackets.
I don’t find it strange at all that almost everyone who haven’t played their characters for long rolls melee witch makes it even harder if you want to play a caster.
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Yesterday i played with my friend, shadow and Affliction. We faced two fury warriors they outhealed us.
Not seeing allot of casters. Even classes without allot of mobility like ret pala you see more because they are pretty much casters these days and insanely OP atm.
The double charge talent should be removed and keep charge at 1 with a talent to reduce the cd. Same with fel rush on dh.
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If you see a caster it’s that one dude who’s insane and just climbing on his alt to his real rating of 2.6k stomping everything on the way there. Everyone else in solo shuffle is either an accidentally high-mmr caster who gets stomped down quickly, or a no-brain melee who can simply do their PvE damage rotation and comfortably win at least 50% of rounds/games.
But high cr bracket has mainly casters!!! Explain this then???
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I agree fully. Casters are good, they’re just not fun at all. I don’t play a caster cause I wanna stand still and facetank a melee who has so much mobility I would think he was speedhacking if I didn’t know better. I wanna be able to kite, I wanna play at range.
Maybe WoW just ain’t for me atm, but I can’t stop questioning why it actually is that I play this game, every time I log in and queue some arena
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I miss the old days where you could outplay a melee and he couldn’t reach you for a time. But if you fail and he is doing right is is facesitting you
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yup just switched from hunter and disc priest to warrior its literally braindead requitres no thought on when to use gap closers it feels like i have unfair advantage
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SV hunter is just as bad,
i got 3 charges ( coordinated assault, spearhead, flanking strike ) at 30-50 yard range
1 harpoon, 30 yard range
1 disengage,
and 30 yards on most of my abilities
- in short even Melee hunter has too much mobility
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Ele and demo aren’t casters, because the word “caster” implies that you actually have to cast something to do dmg
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Ah yes my instant cast abilities such as “demonbolt” with the whopping 8k dmg XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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Too much melee mobility since Warlords imo.
They removed caster utility like permanent spellcast while moving, disarms and instant cc that could be spammed and undispelled without a trinket or a healer.
But kept the melee mobility.
And here are the results. 3v3 was supposed to be balanced according to the pvp devs but how is it more balanced than 2v2 when just a few specs is taking half of the spots I wonder…
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You should also mention that casters these days are almost just as tanky, if not more so (looking at you warlocks) than most melee. Not to mention 90% of the casters barely even cast anymore. Look at ele shamans, they have to cast a stormkeeper every now and then and top the meter in arenas.
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not like melee doesnt do instant 100-250lk dmg tho
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And casters don’t? Again, ele shamans can melt you off the face of the earth faster than any melee can.
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and warlocks are about to become even more tanky with the trinket change
You haven’t got a clue about Ele clearly and should stop bleating like a sheep.
It takes 8 global just to do any burst as Ele, Flame shock is instatly dispelled when we pop Primordial meaning we need to re apply flame shock a 4 second CD X 3 for a burst that last 15 seconds…
We have one wall that cannot be used during a stun and every utility totem can be killed instantly without trying.
The Arena champ just broadcast, 1st game Shaman top damage you all talk about that, but not the fact he then got trained and did NOTHING from then on and died though all defensives and trying to heal himself.
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