“run as fast as possible” … Torghast is dead feature for me after 9.1 .as I want to relax by playing games, not another stress after work.The entire Maw concept and mechanics including stupid debuffs (like Jailer eye 2 or spawning monsters in T.Tower which will kill you after 45 seconds if you want to make short break to take phone call, order pizza or say hallo to your GF) ruined what could have been the best expansion after many years…
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Some of these changes sound good, the new Knowledge → Talent Tree thing sounds good.
BUT are there new (non-gear) rewards? Soul Ash is not incentive enough for me, I don’t care about legendaries, I don’t have one yet in SL. Anima, Stygia, pets, mounts, transmogs, anything to make my time investment there worth my while.
Bahhh, I saw what they did on the PTR and it’s not good. The bar that fills up as you fight - that’s good, I like that. Everything else… no. Not really. The talent tree is a good idea, it worked really well in 8.3 and it seems the talent tree in 9.1 will be more advanced. No complaints there. They just need to fix the affixes. They’re incredibly bad.
My core issues with Torghast remain. The game simply lacks mechanics that would allow Blizz to make something like Torghast feel rewarding. I think they should stick profession stuff in it. Put some interesting consumables we can farm and use in raids. Just… anything that isn’t soul ash. And remove soul ash, put it as a passive drop to everything in the maw. In fact, remove stygia from the game and have soul ash double as stygia.
My core problem with Torghast is just how unrewarding it is. Choreghast.
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I liked the adamant vaults. It seems like a perfect place to put some goodies on those layers. Maybe they introduce something good over the next few weeks.
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They’re making it like Devil May Cry style score.
even in a worse case scenario, it could be gear that has benefits in torghast. ALthough personally I would not like that as just causes the need for multiple gear sets for different parts of the game.
did you see preach video about new torghast?
Can’t say I agree with that. That is a very simplistic way of recreating such tier system.
Also feels a bit wrong to call it DMC style score, plenty of Japanese games have had that kind of grading system over the decades, they usually are a bit more involved than what Blizz came up with.
Edit: Oh dear… can’t even use the 3 letter country code for Japanese games apparently. Man, these overbearing word filters are garbage.
Haste should be increased by 100% in Torghast to make it like DMC.
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yeah he got a point. Its realy lazy how the dev not including some fun stuff. We are actually discussing some stuff on the ptr forum. I don’t like complaining topics so we try to improve something
I wished. But it’s not. In reality it’s a score that goes up as you kill things, and maintaining it is what gives you the high rank. Whether you’ll rush the floor or you’ll take your time doesn’t play a role. Just maintaining your bar. In DMC you have to exceed a bar to get it to the next level, and then maintain and exceed it again, with each tier bar becoming harder to maintain. And it judges you on multiple axes (time, damage taken, style points, etc), where it seems Torghast’s bar will judge you only on killing things.
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I would not focus so much on the bar. With the introduction of the talent tree this bar is decreasing realy slow and even becomes more powerful.
I tried this on the PTR the other day, I just stealthed from the start to the end-of-floor boss and killed it. Constantly. You can’t get to next layer doing this. So, “you can do this by being quick” is a lie. You’ll have to kill other stuff or you won’t get there.
So I’ve read recently a preview on Wowhead : “Torghast’s Scoring System Explained in Patch 9.1 - Requires Speed and Completion for 5 Gems”
Dear Blizz, good luck w/ your new Torghast racing game created for those who like to pay money for more stress and pressure.I am not one of them and I don’t know anyone who is.
Also this gogogo concept prevents me to take a short break to ie check my GF, my dog, take a phone call, pay for pizza delivery or even go to the toillet, you know guys, unlike you, we don’t play your game in the office where you do not have to care about world around you.
Maybe I am too old for this game already and Blizzard focus is more on kids now…
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Solo casuals dont like it either. 
Those mobs that spawn in Torghast if you dare to go afk, is just a baffling system. It doesn’t add anything, other than preventing you to go afk for a moment…
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It is speed run they add timer to this. To unlock next layer you need earn 4+ gems. Can we remvoe all those ratings and just play game?
Yes they always want to get out trash when I just start Torgast.
Speed timer is crap but I think it’s getting better with the talent tree and maybe we will see some rewards. Also the reduction of floors was nice. I like it more than the live version
They really pushing these torghast content Never really cared for torghast