Torghast ruins Shadowlands

You’re confusing opinion with facts. Just because you’re uneducated doesn’t make me a troll.

Get an education, or at least learn the basics like “opinion” and “fact” then we can talk.

Yes you are indeed the worst you do not even understand the meaning about the brussel sprouts. I feel so said for you. You must be very lonely beeing that stupid haha you make me laugh so hard. If you would be able to read you wouldn’t reply like an idiot haha

Doesn’t make any sense at all perhaps you need an education haha. If you like Torghast that is your opinion i dislike it that is my opinion. People who quit Wow because they hate and dislike torghast that is a fact. It is on alot of forums and my Wow friends quit wow too because of torghast they might come back later, but not if torghast is main cibtent for later patches. Oh wow you learned something today. And don’t worry hillbillie it was all for free.

And btw not gonna reply to you again. Because it feels like i am talking to the butthole of a horse. You love torghast yay for you. Most people hate it.

People quit all the time for different reasons.

You’re making out like torghast is the doom of WoW, when it’s actually really fun content to do, imo.

If people quit for sole reason of torghast then it’s most likley other factors at play like being burned out in general.

When I red your posts in this Thread (and in General) I doubt I be reading anything from you for at least three days.
See you.

they can simple nerf it to the ground or delete it fully …

Trying Thorgast on Outlaw makes me seriously want to rq:(

Vial should be 10 second at the start for outlaw rogues.

Its so insane how easy it is on specs with healing off cd compared to outlaw.

I dont even need a voidwalker on my lock, I still survive with just drain life on the same difficulty despite worse gear.

30 sec cd that heals 20% health over 4 seconds. That is the outlaw rogues selfheal.

HOW CAN AN EXPANSION FEATURE BE SO UNBALANCED?!

Its absolutely sad how paladins keep telling outlaw rogues to l2play, when a simple drain life on my warlock makes the same Thorgast 50 times easier.

If drain life makes such a difference, I wonder how smashing your face on your keyboard WoG yourself to 100% life every 2 seconds feel.

I love Torghast, hate that it has no real reward structure though. If it did I would do it more. I’ve cleared Layer 8 on Warrior and Rogue weekly for Ash, done twisting layer 8 on Warrior and layer twisting on Rogue (Outlaw), always solo.

Every class probably has a way to beat it, but knowing how to build your character is extremely important, if you go in there aimlessly you will pick the wrong choices. Good example as Rogue is that maybe you don’t realise one of the strongest anima powers is the Grappling Hook cooldown reduction + combo point, since it stacks and has synergy with other anima power.

I can understand if people don’t enjoy the game mode, but a lot of the “it’s impossible for my spec” just means you haven’t figured out how to make your spec work, because others have done it.

I do enjoy getting the powers like hook that gives reduced cd and +400% dmg done the next attack, its just that the start of the run is so annoying. I can litteraly just oneshot the first floor on my warlock and pick anima powers, and if they all suck, I wont get a problem.

If my rogue doesnt get the hook reduced CD, something benifital like evasion duration increased and so on, then I just want to go back to my warlock:( And thats 99% of the rogue runs. I almost never see any hook powers. I think ive seen the +400% damage done hook like 2 times. While my warlock keep getting good powers every single time…

Why are good rogue powers so rare for outlaw? Why do my warlock always get what I need? Like reduced damage taken on pet, shadowbolt oneshoting boss after crushing items around the place, etc? -.- Its not enjoyable.

And yeah, the rewards… they suck. Hard.

They should add a vendor we can spend things droped on solo Thorgast for rewards such as cosmetics… Killing a new floor after an hour just to get 40 soul ashes or something feels anticlimatic.

my outlaw rogue is like ilvl 155 cant even do layer 1 end boss even … when it hits me i luuse like 20% of my max hp as damage.

Rogues do get good when they get things like +5% health on attack, reduced vial cd, all big rogue cds up on one cd, hook powers…

But tons of rogue anima powers are garbage. Like that RNG hook that gives a random RNG power. 99% is feint. FEINT FEINT FEINT.

Why even do Thorgast on Outlaw when its 99999999999999999999999999999999 times easier on a garbage geared affli warlock in the same Thorgast level. Dont even need a pet.

yeah like i did it on my BM hunter my hunter took not a single hit even the boss was bissy hitting pet all time :stuck_out_tongue: same with warlocks it was easy aswell …

a other place where u can see how bad rogues are is when u starta new chacther in the new start zone u have to fight the elite bear at level 7 u cant do that as rogue eader :rofl:

Ilvl155 is so low though, I think you’re asking for trouble here. With all the catchup available through renown you can reasonably quickly get to ilvl180 without doing much at all. As for the rogue, of course some RNG comes into play but it’s important you

  1. Focus on grappling hook powers (Cd reduction + combo point, the proc 15s of a random survival cooldown per use + 400% finisher damage)

  2. Make sure you’re running elusiveness for the damage reduction, cheat death shouldn’t be used, if you’re gonna die then vanish. Also run mind numbing poison and not crippling, you can use pistol shot if you need to kite.

  3. Kidney shot used to disable the most dangerous abilities, kite if you need to wait for CD’s (vial in particular).

  4. Max health anima powers, help a lot.

As rogue you really have to use your entire toolkit, unless you get lucky with powers. But at ilvl155 you’re going in pretty weak already, get to 180-190 and some cheap enchants and you’re talking a different world.

Feint is good, run elusiveness.

yeah it is a fresh 60 i can craft 164s but i guess that will not help alot :frowning:

These “Torghast ruins the game” whiney threads pop up faster than a zit on a prepubescent teenager’s oily face.
I’m actually amazed that people choose to spend hours crying on the forum about a piece of content that is piss easy as long as you invest a moderate amount of time on getting a few ppl together. Heck, 1 guy ranking for you is enough to blast layer 8 in less than an hour.

Im inclined to agree with the title… I purely say this by the fact, i tried just doing twisting corridors layer 1 on hunter, after floor 6, the mobs seemingly were too much buffed to a point where every utility and anima power i picked by choice and carefully chosen was hitting me like a brick…

Mawsworn Firecaller/Flametender deals 30%.
Floor 12 boss hitting with 50%.
Not too mention, i died from a simple fire trap, 1 simple fire trap… Who even tuned this??

It takes more of a mickey when the rare elite on one of the floors dealt like 1% damage in comparison…

FIX TORGHAST!

Twisting is meant to be the challenge mode, you’re an undergeared hunter. If you want to do it as BM then don’t talent Animal Companion (it weakens your main pet) and run a pet with a good tank ability. BM is one of the specs people have been saying is easier, along with Warlocks and tank specs.

If you just want to do the quest then you can do 6 levels 3x and get a clue from each level 6 boss.

Lol you have seen me for the last 3 days on the forum, intressting because i haven’t been online since wednesday. So you are a liar. So all you do is make useless comment and now you are also not telling the truth. Is it possible i have been knocking on your door every day since last week trying to sell you cookies. Haha your a joke stupid internet troll

even if thats the case, its still overpowered if i was running it with a good set up. I mean i literally used all of my kit when i could to stay alive

You’re meant to use your whole kit, it’s meant to be a challenge mode. You’re also undergeared, and with a bit of anima farming you could have a full 190ilvl covenent set this week, 200 next week. Go get yourself a bit more gear, bump it up 10-15ilvl and buy some enchants (you can fully enchant your gear with the cheap options for less than your repair bill).

Make life easier for yourself.