Toxic experience in RDF for new players

[Zalanji-mirage-raceway]

@Cupìd-mirage-raceway

Are you sure that dungeons were intended to do with complete randoms without thinking about comp at all? a group with a druid tank a warlock 2 hunters and a priest would have had a hard time with most dungeons that needed any type of interrupt on bosses from vanilla up until wrath without being ether over leveled or over geared for it. Dungeons are meant to indeed be a steeping stone into raiding but clearly there was a intent that you would want to bring a few things for dungeons.

Wotlk dungeons were a joke even in p1 before they brought alpha, no special comp was needed.

[Zalanji-mirage-raceway]

@Garlor-blackhand

In TBC no one cared about a mispull or a wipe in a heroics dungeon. But WotLK was “easy mode” back then and now all those players are “coming back” expecting easy mode again.

TBC dungeons also didn’t need to be spammed to the same extent WotlK ones need to, especially by raiding players, as TBC dungeon had nothing relevant to offer beyond P1-2 if you were into T6 raiding.

If I’m forced to do something every day I’d rather it not be a struggle to do as well.

[Cupìd-mirage-raceway]

@Zalanji-mirage-raceway

Wotlk dungeons were a joke even in p1 before they brought alpha, no special comp was needed.

Never stated that wrath dungeons needed any special comp and it was P2 not 1 that introduced alpha

[Zalanji-mirage-raceway]

@Cupìd-mirage-raceway

Never stated that wrath dungeons needed any special comp and it was P2 not 1 that introduced alpha

What I’m saying is that yes, those dungeons in WotLK were, in fact, “intended to do with complete randoms without thinking about comp at all”. That’s why they were that easy.

[Lemonsqueeze-golemagg]

You have to also realize that when you’ve had to explain how to LoS for the 10000th time, it starts to get kind of annoying. Specially because most new players doesn’t listen anyways.