C’mon Vaxir we both know you’ve linked it more than once, posted on it several times and enjoy commenting your opinion on his hit pieces.
But y’know I don’t really care much about you or any of your weird darkshire RP from a decade ago, it doesn’t matter much in 2020. My issue is that you keep repeating the ‘bury the hatchet’ mantra, tell people to come to an understanding and live in peace and harmony together but take the opposite action repeatedly e.g. involving yourself with Lukas blog (hi amdusias/lukas, good to see you have taken a quick break from running an iron horde torture dungeon to come here for more intel gathering for your next archive post of logs you took from 2 years ago), so whether it’s anonymous tumblr blogs and snipes on social media it’s obvious that the talking doesn’t match the walking; have you ever considered taking your own advice and working towards making a better Argent Dawn like you talk about in your posts?
I don’t think any of us (apart from the one tumblr conniseur) gets any joy from arguing over 10 year old drama.
I feel like an old, dead, beaten horse is being brought up again by targeting Vaxir for their past deeds, however questionable they may be. Best we all move on and let it rest, it’s quite old and repetitive when there are worse things going on currently.
I liked it more when we were discussing our opinions and views on the roleplayers vs oocers issue. Not sure what this has to do with the current topic, but its coming across as a little nasty in my opinion.
Yea ok, you keep believing that. But until you show me the evidence I don’t believe you at all ( i mean come on, I shared it once on here, got told not to, didn’t, and commented about twice on their blog, mainly when I got mentioned).
Actively supporting it tho, totes! I dunno who you are but pls, stop spewing poop and making things up to try make me look bad. It’s been done before. It’s been asked for proof every time someone is like !!! THISSSS and nothing has ever come of it. Are you just one of those people who recites what they hear?
Pretty much. People cling to anything they can when angry at someone for stupid things (ex. RP and as twix said, images from six years ago :0).
You’re free to put whatever spin you like on it, I’m not here to convince anyone else and honestly I agree that we should let sleeping dogs lie re: old greviences, but again my point is you feed into the cycle of drama and toxicity as much as others while simultaneously advocating for change, be the change you want to see.
Not trying to bust your balls just for the fun of it, trust me it’d be easier to just mention other stuff if that were the case, I’d like to see things change from devolving into a never ending train of witticisms but it requires buy in from all sides.
I haven’t seen the blog myself, but I’ve heard about it vaguely in a previous topic. Doxxing is awful, it really is. It’s crazy the kind of people that are out there, both in and out of the AD RP community. I’ve come across some dark individuals in my time of roleplay, really makes you think and worry.
Again, I’m here not feeding anything (not have? Unless you count defending myself as such). But thanks for at least one sensible reply. I know what I’ve done in the past years and jfc it’s cringe (like the image twix mentioned etc) but when you’re in deep with people you just wanna fit in and as sad as it is I looked at them with a sense of ‘ooooh you’re cool i’ll do this too’. Though yea, six years ago. I don’t care for those people any more. I long moved on. I also try to better myself but it’s hard when people constantly get things wrong and nag (say I support that blog). But hey, who can blame you? I’ve read the blog a few times in the past as you’d read whatever from other people and get the same feeling I do - “big ew” at what’s displayed. Thing is I’ve changed as a person started as of… four years ago? But when people refuse to let the past die it’s hard to keep moving forwards and then when they’re like “you did this and do that!” it’s like yea, I did. But do I still? No. Keep history in the past. Etc etc. Sorry for the long vent but yoooo. It’s tiring when all this crap started over me being bad rp and evolved into nitpicking and ranting and hatred and actual stalking.
Ps. Yes I AM pissed at said people who I looked up to and joined in with. TLDR you can’t trust people with anything, including your guild and mental health. So meh to them. I followed them, thought it interesting to get art and look back and bloody cringe like mad. Some people are crap. Not an excuse mind you but jfc. I mean at least I can see the wrong in the end as opposed to “lmao mental health is an excuse!!!”
I don’t think you are a bad guy, nor am I interested in painting you as such; you’ve kept weird company and that obviously influenced you, we all need to move past our own missteps.
To be quite honest it’s only been the past few years that I’ve looked back and been like “oh, I get it’s rather bad” (Have to add here: I’m not educated on a lot IRL so the… image twix spoke about? I knew it was bad, yes, but in my mind I don’t see it for what it is cause holy crap I wasn’t told any details 'cause I’ve been alienated since 2003 so lack of education and I guess it didn’t hit how bad things are). I’m not gonna spill too many details otherwise as it’s not relevant but I don’t lie when I speak things on here. I can only see my own side of things in the end so when people say X did Y and I didn’t see it? I didn’t see it in the end. But as time passes I sit and think “did it happen?” aka ERP etc in my guild. Which relies to the end of my post; I was away from my guild for 1-2 years with mental health and I dunno wtf happened but everything in my view was perfectly fine “:))))” (as told by them) and do I trust that? No. Not really the more I think on it. But I can only say what I’ve seen and when the person who claimed it’s all fine turns around and says “lmao he wasn’t around cause of laziness” after I explained my mental health??? I look back on that every day and stray further from ever liking them. Ok so that’s one part of my history and looking back and not very relevant but still. I’m just pissed off when I do have to look back as I’m dragged to every time I post.
When it comes to the rest? I do look back and think “eeeh I don’t really like it” now I’ve changed as a person. Sparing details I changed a lot four years ago and don’t recognise my old self at all. I won’t go into details again but I hit that point where I can separate my current self and old self and do admit I’ve made mistakes. Including linking that blog. But when the “culprits” of the blog nag at you every time you post, you’re gonna hit back eventually to try and shut them up. Wrong of me, yes, but what else could I do? They did the same to me of “this is evidence” (linking me stood next to a draenei for instance as proof I ERP). So why isn’t the blog’s posts evidence? It’s stupid and petty. But after so many damn years of turmoil and hatred it’s beyond the levels of sanity.
I try to move on and better myself every day and such is why I’m constantly saying not to hate somebody for being OOC but instead judge on the person. I learned over time not to judge on somebody for their ways. Sure, OOCers get out etc etc but… no need to be so damn horrible and meme over them. We’re all bloody human in the end. We all make mistakes, do silly things and look back and cringe. But we should be proud we’ve moved on from whatever.
I’ll be honest again. I hold no distaste to anybody on AD except one person who manipulated me and others into hating each other for the longest times. Everybody else? Neutral or something. Even the infamous “PCU”. PCU are cool. They suck. I don’t care. I judge on people as individuals. I know a few members have made mistakes and moved on. As have I. So when it’s spouted that I’m so bad I can’t help but laugh and be defensive. I don’t mean hatred to the people or person. I am just bored and wanna get on with my game.
That just plain aint true. Most keep to themselves, i see other RPers grief roleplay on their alts than I see mythic+ homies and raidonks goofing around.
Let’s not play pretend, my dudes. It’s far from the majority who grief - but that dosent mean there isnt a lot of griefers. We’s a big server, remember. And we’re linked to other servers. Dont blame the many, blame the few.
Actually, AD is not, because it is constantly full, the only time people from other realms can enter is if they get invited.
I know what I have experienced thank you very much, and from my experience a good percentage of the OOCers, if given the chance, will troll/grief roleplayers, the stand ontop of you on a mount, /y uneccesary stuff during rp events, and disrupting rp events in other ways.
Note how you’re attacking an entire category of innocent players rather than griefers. You’re doing this either out of malice, or a misguided vision where everyone who isn’t like you is also to blame.
The fact that a group of griefers gets insulted in return is not “justified”, as you call it, but it’s understandable. However, that episode was a one-time reaction, and even limited outside of the game for what I remember, whereas what you people propose here is organize to mob other players and make them feel unwelcome in our game, on a constant basis. If you begin to indiscriminately attack any player that doesn’t RP, then your toxicity is completely unwarranted, unjustified, and malicious.
But I’m sure you don’t care. You will try to rationalize something to take the guilt off your shoulders. And not because you’re a victim, but because you want this toxic drama to go on. And if ever the OOCers would leave (they won’t), you’d end up with a new target. There will always be something to be toxic about.
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