Toxicity returns to wow - guilds will once again rob you of your gear :(

oh im happy about ML too

i can write a textbook about how to ninja gear in pugs without any repercussions .

but it will be horrible for the gaming experience of other people.

thank you for confirming its once again 0.1 % playerbase making game much worse and much toxic for 99 % .

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What other pve content lol? You are free to join pugs what will use personal loot. Master loot isnt forced. Its optional. You can still run content with personal loot.

You first post on the forums was in May this year


Even if ML comes back, which we don’t know, it might only be GL, and it might be restricted once again to guild groups.

Sorry if I desire to clear a raid at a human speed, if you enjoy being stuck at 3/Y every tier suit yourself.

Well according to your logic my answer should be: Well then get better. The raid can be cleared with lower item level and less player power as the TOP guilds usually do.
Also how is personal loot making you slower?

If you are agaist ML, raiding is not for you I suppose. Only elits will take your loot. Live with it or quit raiding.

Simple example, mine brother got stucked using a mythic veinripper he did not got a replacement till he killed mythic jailer and when a few dropped before no one could trade it to him due of itlv restrictions.

Yes but you killed jailer anyway and I don’t know how much of a dps loss for the entire guild it would have been(presumably negligible). So it didn’t hinder your progress and you still got the kill.
If you follow the logic, what you are saying is not consistent.
Btw you also have to keep in mind that a Boss can drop items with ML that nobody needs. Like dropping a bow for a hunter when there aren’t any hunters. This does not happen with personal loot. You will always have the problem of wasted loot regardless.

Maybe the concept can be foreign for you, but some people enjoy some good challenge with other player in your team playing your same role/spec and it’s not fun seeing that others perform better because they got lucky from the vault and have 2 poxstorm at mythic raid level.

But this has nothing to do with Personal Loot vs Master loot. You can still get unlucky and only have a trinket drop which goes to someone else(cause the council decided so). Master loot can’t and will not change that. Plus the vault will still be in the game.

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It does with master loot he could have got a weapon traded from others, with personal you can’t.

You are talking to Lilith, why you doing this to yourself.

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Yes but with personal loot the item DROPS for you. So the higher the stack of people who can use a weapon or a trinket is, the higher the chance someone is going to have it will be.
With masterloot you will most likely see less of the same drops but rather random loot table elemets that you would not need.
So with PL: you may not be able to trade an item → then waste
with ML: you will get an item for a class who is not even in the raid → waste
The problem of wasted loot and the element of luck persists.
This is why I always wanted PVE vendors kinda like PVP. You farm a currency and then after you get the kill you unlock the loot table.
It is not random. You can put the work and it’s not gonna feel as bad.

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most of people already did ? thats why raiding is dead and m+ is absolute king.

im surprised that they want to make number of people who still raid even lower because being in guilds means almost 100 % loot will be extorted from you

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If you play game with this type of mentality then i am sorry to tell you that WoW isnt for you. It designed as mmorpg first and this made up competion between players, parses, dmg meters will never be designed around. Ion even talked about this in his interwiev. So maybe go try different game.

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In mythic you can stack classes up to certain bosses, plus class balance and team comp is important.

This is when they got mythic jailer, and they extended after Anduin, so for 2 moths he had to rely on vault alone and when he could have received a weapon he could not due of loot restrictions.

Then i suggest you to read wow interwiev with Ion becouse he talked about this.

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