Transmog Anything

[Sereeyna-argent-dawn]

Hey there,

I mainly play as a roleplayer, so I often use leather/cloth items as ‘transmog’ on my hunter while roleplaying.

I ran into an issue this morning; I accidentally mogged a cloth item into a mail item, which I could not undo, so I had to resort to opening a ticket. Thankfully, Blizzard has given me a new item to use, so the issue was solved, but not the problem.

Now with allowing us to mog white items and such, I think it would be the time for Blizzard to allow us mogging -anything- regardless of armour type and what class you play. This suggestion would also include allowing any class to wear (hold) any weapon they want. This would open up so many more cosmetic options that it is unreal. There is no reason why a mage couldn’t wear full plate if they choose to, aside from the class fantasy.

It would also allow us to farm transmog on any characters. So when you run through a raid as a warrior, you don’t have to chuck out any non-plate and crawl back on a mage to collect the cloth items you’ve already gotten on your warrior. It’s just… Why? The same goes for weapons. I can’t fathom why a mage is too dumb to hold a bow to get that transmog unlocked.

Let me know what you think. <3

[Ceei-argent-dawn]

Agreed - I would even take it a step further and argue that Class Fantasy is already challenged by the amount of “Cloth” outfits that have chain links, plate covers or a leather look.

Might as well just commit now.

[Sereeyna-argent-dawn]

I totally agree. I am totally fine with leaving class-only mogs as they are. Such as Hunter PVP sets and such. But why not let us mog all the other mail sets as a warrior, for example?

[Laéy-argent-dawn]

Yeah my priest not having the physical capability to place his palm against the hilt of a sword adn then lock his fingers around it, but being perfectly capable of doing the very same thing with a mace, dagger or staff is kinda silly.

Hey, Anduin is a priest with a sword and metal plate armour, and he’s technically a cripple from the Divine Bell incident. So if he can do it, my perfectly healthy and physically fit priest has no reason to not be able to.

EDIT: Also, side note, while we’re at it, let us mog hands and wrists separately just like shoulders.

[Lírìa-argent-dawn]

Remember when legendary items were not mogable, because legendary status should be kept a legendary status?
I remember.

Do you remember certain Epic Quality Items were restricted because they build up to the legendaries?
I remember.

Clearly, this was among the most notable change in Transmog rules. Fine, dandy, now we can all Transmogg THUNDERFURY, BLESSED BLADE OF THE WINDSEEKER (as long as our class can wear one handed swords. You know. Like Warlocks.)

I welcome wholeheartedly the addition of cosmetic armor to the game, which is just Transmogrificationable (is that the word) for everybody, regardless of Class.
What rogue doesn’t want to dress up in the Stormwind Guard Armor from WoD Garrison Bunkers?
They don’t. BUT THEY CAN.

And that’s my point. People that want to look like a Dagger wielding Rogue will look like a dagger wielding rogue. People that want otherwise…can’t. Or at least have limited options to. They’re teased with the itty bitty means of Item gear andhave to handpick, minmax, and hope the outcome is great.
Which CAN yield to great transmog results, if you’re dedicated and lucky. But more often than not you’re met with “Oh chucks, if I just could equip some mail…” and feel sad. But hey, the Cosmetic mail piece from that one set you could totally wear, weren’t it for the fact that it’s an entirely different colour palette.

Make anything be transmogrifyable into anything, I say.

the upsides: Character cusomization, something that Dragonflight caters to a lot already, and is clearly liked.
Keeping Legacy content relevant for even more extensive mog runs.
Loosens it up a bit, Cloth pieces can look like Cloth for example, and allow to go from there. Imagine if all leveling sets, or profession sets or Dungeon sets would just share colour palettes, and you could freely mix and match around to look just like you imagine.

The downsides:
How to tell what Character is what class? If they look like a Warrior, but suddenly Stealth up, how am I supposed to-
Class Icons, as well as Class colours, and the name and specc of the class on every inspection.
Class fantasy, what makes a rogue a rogue if the player can make them look like a Warrior?
The Player does class fantasy. Look at the amount of Outlaw Rogues. Now look how many of them dress like a Pirate. There are certainly a fair bunch, but clearly not everyone does it. Give the player options, let them choose, and don’t restrict them. Hell, do surveys and data collection on popular outfits, allow your art team to be inspired by what players come up with, and maybe cater to that once or twice. Connect the Wardrobe function with a Like function, if that makes it easier. Save any Set as a Wardrobe to mog with. Wear it. Upon inspection players can hit a button that says “Nice outfit”. Upon deletion of the set in the wardrobe delete the amount of likes. But gather the Data of it for your research.
Class sets wouldn’t be class sets anymore, since anyone can wear anything.
-Says who? You can continue to make class sets, esspecially with the class restriction to wear them, heck, get some class fantasy from there if you must, and once it hits legacy loot, free for all. But this feeds to my prior point. Give Players Options, and players will do best with it.

Sincerely,
A Pissy Warden Roleplayer, Month 1/12 in to get -My- Set, which will be available TO EVERYONE.
WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
I’ll dislike ya’ll for wearing it if you’re not a nightelf, but god bless you for having the Option to! I hope you pick some of the items from the set, mix and match it around, and make your character look the way YOU like them best!!

[Sereeyna-argent-dawn]

Those are excellent points, in my opinion. A way to go is genuinely to make the current content mogs class-specific, and once it hits legacy content (when the new expansion comes out), just let us go and mog them.

[Lírìa-argent-dawn]

One more Idea I just had, but it involves spending Money, so I have low hopes.
Imagine the Following:

A Player of seven years has fun with her Tauren Rogue. Since the restriction lift on transmogg items she enjoys wearing the full Revendreth Plate set, with the gargoyle shoulderpads to it, fully comitted.
As an Outlaw rogue, only makes sense to wield Duble Thunderfury. If you commit to big, you COMMIT TO BIG.

As She is happily questing around, suddenly a Whisper appears, sporting a Blue Mark. The Heart of the Player stops for a beat. A Game Master? Did she do anything wrong? Is she about to be banned??

Gamemaster Examplamanetor Whispers: "Hey there CómmitBîg, I’m Gamemaster Examplamentor, and would be interested if you have a moment of your time to talk about your stunning good Transmog! If you do not wish to participate in Player Review Feedback Data collection, you can disable the Option in the Interface Menu under “General”.

The Player realizes that she’s wearing the set for quite some time, having fun with it. Over the time she has collected quite a few likes on her set, which seems to finally have broken a treshold so that she is taken randomly to give some Feedback on it.
For the player: A Feeling of Participation, interest, appreciation. The Developers take an active interest in HER Playing the game!
While she is getting killed by the questmob she responds that yes, she has a minute.

The Gamemaster then proceeds to ask her about Her set. What motivated her to dress up like that specifically, what did she like about it, how come she wears it with her given Race? Why the given Class? What would she like better or different? And finally the skilled Gamemaster Survey Member would ask: “How would you consider this Set to work, given your Class/Race Combination?” and gather all the answers for their Data Pool.

In that Data Pool there’d be so much Input and Feedback, it would have to be viewed by an entirely different Team mayhaps, let’s call them Quality assurance. They’re the Filter for any trolling, as well as the first Instance to check “Would that make sense”, given what the game Lore provides. “Jesus came to my Character in a Dream and bestowed the location of this armor to me” for example.

The filtered Data then gets filed, sorted, and accounted for. Groups of various Subsections are made, with the Characters Outfits and Class/race Combination to back it up. And That Data is then presented to the “Actual” developers for reference.

“So why should a Tauren Rogue be able tow ear Plate Armor. It just doesn’t make sense, in the Class Fantasy.”
“Errr, Sir, you see, we have Player Feedback in the ten thousands that they Justify being able to wear plate by empowering themselves so much with Shadow Magic, whilst wearing Sound supressing Enchantments that they maximise Protection and Stealth. Appearently as a side note roughly 75% of these are open to the idea of being slowed down for having these options.”
“Huh. So you tell me not only do we have some Inspiration to draw to make the next Rogue set some Shadowy Plate thingy, we also may have some new names for Trinkets or Rings, or necklaces, we even may have a new Rogue skill on the Whiteboard? Heightened Defenses whilst reducing Mobility?”
“…Yes, Sir?”
“Steven, I feel the burden of choice on me.”
“Well Sir, seems like your Job turned from being a No-Sayer, to being a Decision-Taker.”
“But what if I pick the wrong decision?”
“Wouldn’t matter, Sir. With the amount of Data we collected, you’d always make any group happy, and the other unhappy. Regardless of your choice or priorities, someone will love it, Someone will hate it. The only unifying factor that displeases everyone would be not to enable them at all.”
“But what about those that dislike enableing the Players?”
“The Trolls Sir?”
“No, the actual people with concerns and thoughtful arguments?”
“Feeds back into my earlier argument about pleasing one, displeasing the other, but we can consult the Player Data feedback if that would make taking decisions easier for you, Sir.”
“Please.”

Am I seeing this through pik tilted shades? Is there any flaw in my Vision? Cause I see naught but wholesomeness, Employment, Enjoyment, and Upgrades in it.
“But it would cost money.”
Yes. Put some more Mounts in the Ingame Shop if you must, but don’t dare do anything that would cause the Player Numbers to climb up, shun Investion, shoo it like the Plague, lest you grow with it, and we certainly can’t have that!

Irony aside…The only point I see that would defeat my point would be that the Data desiring the Change is already tolled, and my Desire is with the Minority. In which case: Hooray. Democracy. i’m fine with being in the Opposition, for as long as the game takes the course of respecting and valuing player Feedback to grow upon.

[Phoenixblade-argent-dawn]

I absolutely support this. It’s silly that still after so long we’re still unable to transmog items however we like.
Like what’s the point of these restrictions? There is none and so much creativity is locked away simply because we’re unable to transmog plate to leather or cloth.

I’m both a RPer and a content player and it’s annoying that I need to walk around with leather or cloth items on my warrior in order to be able to have a decent transmog for RP or other forms of content.

Whilst I agree that class specific transmog might still be restricted, there’s no reason why I wouldn’t be able to transmog regular items or just none class drops from content.

Let us transmog what we want!

[Puaiohi-argent-dawn]

Agree 100%. felt this way for like 2 years, current system is very restricting and definitely due for making things more open. both for RP and for more variety.

[Teboras-argent-dawn]

I think there is merit in allowing more liberal transmogging, especially seeing how PvP recognisability is a dead horse anyhow after, for instance, tier sets were gone.

However, I don’t know if it’s a good idea to allow free mog collection by all classes. There is something nice about having to work for things, and just throwing it all in there devalues getting your hands on it. That’s next to the point that making this so open would never fly with current Blizzard.

In the end, I just want to play a cloth class with actually cool looking clothes, so hey, all in on the free transmog train.

[Tazeki-argent-dawn]

Wildstar allowed true free form “mogging”. Any class could use any item for this purpose. Including raid tiers of any other class, provided that you earned each individual one on the proper class.

Even better; they were outfits that overrode your gear’s looks, meaning that you didn’t have to update it every time you swapped out a gear piece. And you could flip between multiple outfits on the fly. And you could hide your trousers, running around in your underwear if you so pleased.

They also had a robust dye system. All these factors combined allowed you to really create a unique look and personality for your character.

… I miss my psychotic rodent, is what I’m trying to say.