(Edited the title to better represent what i wish)
Hello
So i do know all the #Tank in a dress" arguments and i do understand them while i fo not agree with them. Anyway. This is not the issue i am talking about.
If i am a Druid, i can only transmog leather to leather. If i wear tattered dreadmist robe, i still cant mog it at all. The issue is mostly an RP gear issue. I have tons of perfectly good cloth type clothing in my wardrobe which some, i paid a pretty penny for on cloth class character. I have the looks i want for an RP event but that druid is still going to have to carry the actual cloth chest piece that character want to wear for an event.
This is totally out of date. An old fashioned relic that needs not exist. If you have the armor piece on your wardrobe allready, why force people to still have to carry the actual armor piece (Robe and other stuff) in the bag.
That druid in balance side would very well even use that cloth set of heirlooms while leveling if one desires.
I think any class should be able to transmog at least cloth heirlooms if they so choose. I dont really need to transmog plate to cloth. Even though i would love such an option, i dont need it.
My characters only need the ability to mog that cloth heirloom set to cloth for mainly RP purposes which include solo RP while doing quests.
Make these possible
-Cloth to cloth
-leather to leather
-Mail to mail
-Plate to plate
What you can wear you can mog like you were able to do in pre-wardrobe transmog system.
Plate users only get plate, even though they can wear mail, leather and cloth.
If it wasnāt like this, then cloth users would all have been at a significant disadvantage in transmog farming. Because they canāt wear anything other than cloth.
Personally, I would have preferred if we could get the transmog, regardless of us being able to equip it, but itās blizzardās decision.
Me too, but being able to wear that dreadmist robe and mog it to some cloth i have in the wardrobe would do it for me and i dont think it would bother those, who dont want to see tanks for example wearing cloth in dungeons or raids.
No disadvantage there. Collecting transmogs work just right now. It is fair since people cant need cloth if they are plate users. I do not want any change to this.
I only want to be able to wear cloth heirloom set as a warrior or other arbitrary class wearing normally using other than cloth and use transmog station to transmog that cloth heirloom set.
Other than heritage armor, whenever you see a user wearing something, you immediately understand it. itās a cloth user, a leather user, a plate user, etc. Transmog already destroyed the capability of people finding out whoās wearing what kind of gear. More isnāt good.
Just keep the cloth and wear it when you need it. This part is actually the one thatās fine.
Same arguments were used in ESO for example, when transmogging was implemented. They have no restrictions which is good and has made no issues. That system gas no restrictions. Then again. Anyone can use what ever armor they choose whether it is good or bad decision. The choice is players.
In WOW, we have those forced armor types which people need to use and thats good. People also should only be able to mog leather to leather, plate to plate and cloth to cloth.
They really cant do that as if druid want to wear cloth for RP purposes, he/she cant due needless restrictions. If someone want to use cloth heirloom set and mog it to something they allready have in wardrobe, they should be able to do it.
Not to mention it is stupidly expensive to have the needed cloth for all characters who want to wear some cloth on their off-duty time and forced to buy it separately for each character. It is also unfair to those who would need that piece of armor to their wardrobe collection as people aare buying things they would not need to if they could mog cloth to cloth as a leather wearer for example. All those pieces of equipment are away from those who still dont have them on their collection.
If my DK want to play RP as an Apothecary, he needs to buy Silver thread robe or black velvet robe for that even while they allready have it in mog collections. Both of these are quite rare and expensive. I would rather let those get the needed items to their collection rather than me taking it even if i have that thing in my wardrobe.
Besides. Before wardrobe, we could actually transmog cloth to cloth as a plate wearer. The Wardrobe took this away.
Higher gear users can already use cloth, just not transmog.
Every class can already run around naked (except for pants for some reason), so they are already homogenized to begin with.
Thanks captain obvious. Pretty sure OP was asking for it to be changed - not for clarification on how it currently works.
Theyāre already at that ādisadvantageāā¦ Plate wearers already have the perk of being able to wear all types. Thatās one of the perks of rolling a higher armor class, certainly one reason why I wanted to roll a plate wearer. OP is merely asking for that perk to be extended to transmog.
Thereās nothing wrong with that.
ā¦ No there isnāt? Stop making up random āfactsā.
Not true.
WOTLK already started the trend of making gear look similar regardless of type. Couldnāt tell in WOTLK at all if people were wearing āplateā or āLeatherā, it all looked the same.
It wasnāt transmog that destroyed that, it was poor design of gear that destroyed it.
transmogging the way you want means, wearing a plate and making it seem like itās cloth. while wearing a cloth for a plate user is a significant disadvantage on its own.
I mean wasnāt the whole Role play fantasy supposed to be authentic? Isnāt transmogging gears against the authenticity of things? Why are you complaining so much for a system that doesnāt need this changing?
Each class can use, learn and transmog to their own specific armor type. The fact that plate users can wear other types of gears is enough of an advantage as is.
Yesā¦ I can wear cloth. Why shouldnāt I be allowed to look that way in battle?
So is being nakedā¦ Donāt see you complaining about that. So is wearing a plate battlebra.
Itās fantasy, take your realism elsewhere.
I donāt think you get to decide how others are allowed to roleplay their fantasies.
Besides, youāre fixating far too much on the weirdo examples here.
MOST people want this because thereās that one mail item that would perfectly complement their plate set, or a cloth item would fit best with their leather set.
It doesnāt need it in YOUR OPINION.
Besides, Transmog is a convoluted bogus system to begin with.
What they SHOULD have implement was simply appearance slots where you can equip gear that is only used to dictate your appearance. Much simpler.
Itās not an advantage at all, other than appearance wise. Still strange you think itās fine for them to appear like that out of battle, but not in-battle.
When the day comes that cloth users can transmog into plate, then Iāll be fine with plate transmogging into cloth. Until then, Itās ridiculous. Iām 1000% no on this one.
Nonsense, the 4 Armor-Groups have very distinct looks (besides a few Faux Pas like Plate-Panties and such), and they should stay with the classes theyre supposed to. No Platewearing Mages please!
Something like that would work if the class is 100% recognizable from its style.
Take Wildstar for example, there you hadnāt any kind of restriction. But you could guess the class from a mile away due to its signature attacks and iconic weapons, sometimes even their way to move and so on. But every class had its own weapon, for instance. Here you can mistake a rogue for a fury warrior, a survival hunter for a warrior or warrior for dk, itās a mess. And donāt get my started about casters, they all look the same. They were doing good when they made different casting and idle animation for each caster, for instance, but for some reason most of them were never implemented.
As long as you donāt have something like this I guess you will always have complaints. But then again, wow is miles behind its competitors in terms of customization, from character creation to transmog.
Im not sureā¦ I can easily recognize a class or at least most of them by what spells they use. Especially casters are easy to recognize from their signature spells like shadowbolt, firebolt, frostbolt, smite, penance etc.
Melee classes are harder though but druid is a bear or cat, Shaman has its spells again in enchantment and DK also has the spells.
In what content recognizing player from what they wear is important? Only place it has some difference is PVP but then again if one just mogs everything hidden and runs around in shorts, its the spells again from where you recognizr yjr class, not what they wear. Even weapon types have litle difference in regards of damage.
If you really want to be able to recognize players class fast, you should be advocating for a class icon that is shown over every player as an toggle option in interface->Display. This is how people recognize classes in ESO and it works fine and is clear as a sunny day compared to looking at ones armor or clothing.
Yea there are plenty of solutions to this problem, and Iām all for ANY of them, but I think that unless this problem will be treated somehow you will always have people complaining, and for a fairly good reason. Changing nameās color according to the class itās a beginning I guess
Also Blizzard has been nice enough that they allow plate and mail wearers transmog some of the quest rewards of other armour type.
So now a hunter can wear all the quest rewards still and have ie. a leather look of the pre L40. Which I find really cool. I really like my leather hunter.
to avoid ātank in clothā every class should be able to wear 2 armor types. plate classes for example could wear only plate and mail, mail wearers can only wear mail and leather, leather can wear cloth and leatherā¦
I jusr still think, that it would be enough if we could transmog anything we can wear to same type.
It is just waste of gold and rare clothing pieces to have to buy them for all characters instead of just wearin Dreadmist heirloom set as Paladin or Druid and mog that Dreadmist heirloom set to some cloth that i do have in my collection allready.
For example, there are many cloth pieces on robes that would fit druid perfectly. There is even a robe that looks exactly like the starter robes of druid and that greenish beaded robe with all other pieces hidden, would also be perfect for druid. Just try it yourself.
Before wardrobe collection broke the transmog, i always used tattered dreadmist robe as a druid and transmogged that to some cloth robe that looked perfect on my druid.
