I like the new expansion but the trailer…a troll and a human riding side by side, trolls and humans will never be friends. Btw, I hope that Blizz will give up to elements that doesn’t fit in the game, spaceships, laser guns, robots who looks like the one from Star Wars.
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No, never. Go back to TBC era. Negatron, spaceships, alien void egg infestations and hideous orc biolabs were so much superior to the “Black Empire did nothing wrong” tier lore we’re getting today.
Fortunately nobody’s there to enforce that sentiment in-character so the playerbase at large can keep alive the warcraft in the game’s title.
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Fortunately nobody’s there to enforce the tired faction warring either.
That’s a dwarf.
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And that’s how it’s best done, each roleplaying what they enjoy the most.
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WoW is basically Punk Fantasy. It’s an amalgamation of a lot of different fantasy sub-genres thrown into one setting, including but not limited to time travel, dimensional travel, undead armies, low-fantasy grit etc. I would not hold my breath for any of that changing anytime soon.
Looked like they were racing one another to me, which I consider well within the frame of realistic interactions during a truce between the factions.
Plus, the ones sent to the Dragon Isles are explicitally forewarned that the dragons won’t tolerate any faction conflict on their territory. You do not want to antagonize Dragon Mommy.
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@Waldenberg Preferably not to the extent of ditching daddy Blizz’s pretty big plot point though, regardless of what one thinks of it (except Shadowlands - everyone is and should be allowed to ditch that.)
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Fortunately the Exploring Kalimdor book contradicted that very plot point and allowed a fair degree of leeway for faction conflict to still exist.
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The worst offender here is Blizzard themselves.
Faction war ended? Time to never create stories based around people dealing with the aftermath, we gotta go to Shadowlands.
Huge Scourge invasion? Lasted two weeks, literally zero mentions of how it ended, we gotta go to Shadowlands.
3 years long timeskip? What did night elves do? Did they actually sign the armistice? What happened to Gilneas? Has Undercity been cleansed? Nope, time to explore Dragon Isles.
Blizzard is the definition of that “I don´t want to play with you anymore meme”, except instead of dropping Woody, they drop storylines.
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Maybe I should’ve been more clear that I’m referring to the Dragon Isles, because as Vervaina said:
Couldn’t agree more. I’m just weary of people playing too much with the framework and us ending up with something Moon Guard-esque.
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I think in general you won´t see people ignoring Dragon Isles because travelling to a newly discovered continent is vastly different than learning about (and travelling to) the afterlife that may or may not be completely different than what your religion has been preaching.
While not everyone might come there (and they shouldn´t if they don´t want to, I can´t imagine greater pain ad a DM than somehow being forced to create events around the current thing no matter what it is), there will be no harm to their characters if they learn about the zones and people that live there.
EDIT because I forget stuff: Saying that, let´s not pretend that there isn´t sizeable part of the community that is pretty much on the level of Moon Guard. And I´m not talking just about vulpera celestial pandaren dancer dragons who dunked on N´zoth by creating alternate Uldum where his invasion never happened, but also on all the human barons and counts from great islands that aren´t on the map.
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I don’t think so either. I was once again referring to the conflict aspect of it all.
Shudder
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To be fair, that is probably because Exploring Kalimdor is with few exceptions describing Kalimdor as we see it in game currently - which is by and large still stuck in Cata.
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Maybe, or maybe not.
I would take any chance at a conflict existing that can be developed into a storyline and RP over shooting down RP avenues with “but truce!” and “but legion’s gone!” and “but scourge defeated!”.
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I doubt there will be any big RP-PvP campaigns taking place in Dragon Isles, if only because of sharding. Even in BfA the campaigns mostly took place in old world and I remember Zandalar one where ending had to be in Zul´Gurub because we got sharded into oblivion in Zuldazar.
However, what people generally don´t realize is that NPCs are not omniscient or omnipotent. Yes, Alexstrasza said no faction conflict. Yes, Turalyon and Horde council agreed to it.
But if group of humans and orcs who went to Dragon Isles for different purposes run into each other and get into a fight, that doesn´t mean red dragonflight strike team will drop on their location and imprison them for all eternity, or that they will automatically have a warrant placed on their heads by Turalyon and Baine.
As long as it´s a secret, they should be fine. If they gloat about it in Stormwind and Orgrimmar, yeah, then there´s a problem.
That does seem like plausible explanation, however we shouldn´t succumb to traditional RPer disease where we do everything we can to screw ourselves over. Blizzard sucks at storytelling, they sucked at doing faction war, they suck even more at doing armistice (and by that I mean that they don´t do anything with it), so when they throw us a bone that allows those that wish to do it to RP a conflict between Horde and Alliance, we should take it.
Also, it´s in line with situation of night elves who have never actually signed that armistice. Blizzard kinda forgot about that.
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That rationale is how we got Zandalar beach parties with Alliance on the guest list. 
Personally I don’t see the problem in small-scale skirmishes, but as with all things like this, it really does have to be managed and moderated with care.
Now, I do not expect for the dragons to effectively spy on the mortals on the isles, much less for them to lay down the law with lethal force. The trouble is that we don’t know what they would do either, and for obvious reasons that’s an eventuality we shouldn’t explore for ourselves. Ergo, don’t RP something that would incur such consequences in the first place.
All of this I can agree to, and given the eyes of the Horde and Alliance are mainly fixed on the Dragon Isles for the time being, there are bound to be several blind spots around the rest of the world for actors on either side to shed a little blood for old times sakes.
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Dragon Isles, from character perspective, sounds like a good ol’ adventure fun, which is something most have been carving for the last… Lord knows how many years. I think I had same personal expectation with Island Expeditions in BfA, which turned out to be a major disappointment. So rolling your eyes over DI like most did about Shadowlands is, imo, not the right choice.
Eternal fighting over Arathi resources and the Valley of Death in Alterac… I personally like treating BGs canon until its proven that one or another side controls the area (i.e Stromgarde). Sure, truce is established and there is a massive relaxation between the factions, but I truly do not believe that factions like League of Arathor - die-hard haters of the Forsaken - would just pack up their stuff and leave Arathi Basin just cause what another human kingdom to the south said.
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Fair enough, I just don’t think Exploring Kalimdor is a good example of this due to it being frozen in time. And written before Tyrande’s change of heart at the end of Shadowlands.
Tyrande had a whole storyline about it in Shadowlands.
The most “lore accurate” line to take with the night elf disposition toward the Horde is probably something of a very cold peace. No active warfare, no bloody vengeance, but no friendship either. They’re rebuilding, ‘renewing’, but that doesn’t mean they’ll want anything to do with their (former?) enemies.
And yet no armistice has been signed and all of it was focused on Sylvanas. It was a personal storyline for Tyrande and Shandris, not for night elves as a whole.
And if you want to extrapolate from it that night elves have signed the armistice, sure, you can. But it will be a headcanon until we get actual confirmation of it happening.
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You´re right, however the opposite is how you end up with Kirin Tor hit squads appearing out of nowhere around a mage that created a portal.
Correct path leads through the middle, not being limited too much by in-world statements while also not turning Azure Span into massive Alliance vs. Horde battlefield.
When it comes to dragons, I think the best way is to just make sure any conflict takes place in area of Dragon Isles with no draconic presence. I haven´t looked into datamining too much because I want to experience the story and new zones at launch instead of on Wowhead, but I am certain there will be such areas. In general, most RP-PvP is organized beforehand, so it can happen at such locations.