TSM Users Deny Others From AH

No you don’t need 2 accounts to be able to use TSM…

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Whats wrong with dominating the AH if he is only using tools that are allowed? If he is using illegal tools, or selling his gold for realm money, thats a different story.

There is no human right to sell things on the AH, smart players using every tool in their kit will dominate other players no matter what aspect of the game we are talking about.

This is what vanilla is about, having a sandboxish game where people can do their thing and be good at it, and if it turns out to be negative for the community, there are social consequences you as a community can engage in to cripple the behaviour of said player. Dont cry on the forums about it, but rather engage the community on your server. If a large amount of players agree with you that his behaviour is negative, you can make a big impact on this player.
If your server does not agree, well tough luck, but thats a community decision.

I dont get what are you complaining about.
First, you started undercutting the guy, then he undercuts you. Seems like normal market functioning. What do you expect him to do, just let you sell and his auction just to sit there?
Second, why do you care about having him a lot of gold? Maybe he just plays AH and nothing else, not caring about speedruns, dungeons, pvp balance etc. Playing AH is sole purpose of someones gameplay. Or just simply he just want to collect gold for TBC flying or Lionheart helm whatever. If you think it is goldseller, just report, but you will need some proof for that.
Third, when crafted items are sold below vendor price, it is mostly proffession leveling items or just players who didnt inform themselves. Just buy them and vendor to profit.
Fourth, I dont see how can anyone deny you from using AH, you said you are posting and buying and earning gold, so no truth in this.

Think your problem is you cant stand someone has more time to hang on AH and better addon also.

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No, you need only one wow account with TSM addon and TSM windows desktop aplication.

Asteric are you reading or not? I am up for competition I am no mad about someone undercuts me, even msg with other guys about the postings time to time. As I stated without he is not dominating all the people could sell their things but now this TSM guy(s) do not want competition and do not even look at what is going on while addon auto declare price and auto post for them.

When I warned about the unwise moves few time I warned him. He is not even know what he is posting and ask me which item I was talking about. Man if you try to undercut a man who dropped the price by 30-35% with only 1 item the good move is buy it and keep the price high. But because their “Not-Automated” addon they do not even know what is going on with it.

You are just try to whitewash something. Even Blizzard takes action in retail against this addon.

As I said with competition I gained 1000g in 5 days. For flying in TBC you need ~6k gold or any other item in Classic at most cost you ~10k in total. So even with competition it is possible to get enough gold.

Why would I need to search for items for few silver from vendoring in AH?

Also are you out of mind or what? Why would I be mad about a guy earn gold? I am talking about that guy do not want us to earn gold thats the issue I am pointing.

If you did not understand how those guys deny people to sell something on AH through reading my post I do not know another way to explain it to you. You are here for just defending the TSM nothing more. I am saying I am forced to use trade chat to sell my items and you are saying “you said you are posting and buying and earning gold” really?

As i said in my previous post, there is NOTHING wrong with dominating the AH, its a free market. and that also have nothing to do with the addon, but the player behind it.

Wow, This topic is so on point, You are just getting owned in Wow classic, get lube or fight back, Blizzard is not helping you this time

Very mature comment Dib keep the pace.

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What do you want? Pat in the head and tell everything is goin to be okay? You can take my comment the way you itself want to but that is the situation no matter how you think of it. Of course calling you lil boy at the end of the post was immature and i did delete it as it did not sound very nice and made me sound like i think i am some kind of kingpin of AH, im getting owned the same way as you are in it but i am not goin to fight this battle because i have my focus on so much different things than dominating the AH

At least I am not patting the toxicity like you. If you are not even know what you post for which price you are at the thin line of botting. Only thing these guy(s) are doing is run to mailbox and grab items and run back when the addon warns them rest is automated. Addon doing it things according to some function written by some people.

As you last line. I am not also want to dominated the AH. I am for a competition but these guy(s) are not. They want to be the sole user of AH for profitting and they can manage 90% of their goal.

If I can not sell anything on AH and forced to use Trade chat and try to sell things lower than the current price to be able to get attention of some players while others can do whatever they want and do a 10 sec run when an addon warns them that means there is something wrong with it.

i am not patting the toxicity man, i am just telling you the facts and what are happening to you right now, some guy is owning you so hard in the game where it is still possible and you had to come here hoping for blizzard to make this guy gaming impossible so you have a change and also you hoped the support from the community but it seems like this game is filled with old school gamers that gives a crap about your cry and cheers for this guy that is working damn hard and owning the game, you know we had a name for those back in the days… let me think… Oh yea they were Hardcore gamers and they were enjoying huge respect on our times…

Man I am playing this game 13+ years so I know what I am talking about. Being hardcore and toxic are 2 different things.

Alright man it still does not change the fact this guy is owning you

It’s pretty clear that you ran out of arguments when instead of replying to the several people in this thread that made good arguments, you pick a fight with the guy that didn’t

Man you are keep utterring same thing thats why I repeat myself. You are just want others to accept injustice and you are not showing your arguments. I do not care whether you are accepting something or not. Because there is some people standing with the wrong guy not makes him the right one.

Because of your kind of people, patting the back of doing things that they should not, those people assume they are right. As a community everywhere in the world thats why we fail. Same thing goes for the the game. Trying to picturing the people who wants justice and steps taking as crying isthe issue. You could be one of the guy(s) abussing things like this in game or in your real life or just a person that carried by guy(s) doing these or the most virtues guy I can ever met. I do not know and I do not care because right now you are trying to defend a man that wants everything for himself.

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You’ve yet to reply with anything other than “but it’s unfair that other people are better than me” kind of replies.

It’s a free market, and no abuse is being done, other than you not getting the way you want it.
There is no injustice, there is competition. If someone is running faster than you in a non organized competition cause they have better shoes than you, would you go to the manufacturer and complain that it’s unfair that they make better shoes than the ones you got?

No they don’t. I want your proof of this. You are passing lies off as truth.

Are you really working hard to get that idea from my replies? I am not the only one complaining there are other posts about this both for classic and retail. Other people do not want to write here to avoid to interract your kind.

If a person do not know the content of his item posting and prices he post for in AH thats not competition. Only manual thing a TSM user do is run to mailbox and run back to AH. We are not compete in marathon.

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I used to post hundreds of items and I didn’t know the prices of them all and used auctionator to keep track.

Here you can check. But later they relaxed limits of some things because some restrictions also impacts on normal players.

Addons there to help you, not automate things and if you do not have a health problem that result in forgetting things you have done, you should remember what you posted for which price.

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