Well going in circles does not help and is a sign of a dead argument, it still does not make win rates proof for design-bias - and you still failed to mention why exactly the rest of the BGs are biased towards the Horde. If it was so clear, why can you not name it?
So enjoy your Bias-war. I am out of here.
See you later. And please do not get shocked about evenly win rates.
I think youâre reading massively into his use of a single word, honestly.
Even with the loaded context you attempted to provide, you could take it any number of different way. He could be, like you said, shocked alliance are still winning despite his dr evil attempts to make horde favoured in battlegrounds.
Or he could be shocked that, after hearing a tirade of alliance complaints, battlegrounds are actually quite balanced.
He could be using the word in sarcastic manner, implying that of course the winrates are balanced.
Or he could be surprised by just how overall even they were, just because that might be a surprising thing to see given the huge number of factors at play.
Point being you have no idea why he said surprisingly, you have a narrative, you forced his quote to fit your narrative.
You think everything is secretly out to get you, rigged against you because of the choices youâve made or the things you represent? I donât know you, I canât say if that is or isnât true in real life, we live and have lived through some pretty trying times for many different kinds of people, so being predisposed to that is unfortunately not unrealistic 
But this is a game, thereâs no conspiracy, thereâs no grand evil plan being subtly hinted at from the sidelines.
You are right. Saying
is a little bit exaggeration to explain the thing here. I know he never meant that they are trying to increase horde win rates but again I am leaving 3 of his sentences in a row and everyone will take his/her part of understanding what he can be explain to us.
ââThe horde are here waiting for you.ââ - Ion Hazzikostas
I canât trust that statement while battle for gilneas exists.
How are Temple of Kotmogu, Warsong Gulch, Eye of the Storm, Arathi Basin, Deepwind Gorge, Battle of Gilneas, or Seething Shore favored to one or the other faction?
Only thing you could argue is that in Battle for Gilneas Horde has straight path to the Waterworks, but timing wise they are close enough not to make a difference.
Bad BGs are Silvershard Mines (much rather play Horde spawn, due to Mid cart spawn location) and Twin Peaks which is just bonkers broken.
Only thing I can think of is that Ion miss spoke and ment that Horde has slightly higher win rate in all other BGs except Isle of Conquest and Alteract Valley, but thous maps are actually currently biased towards Alliance victory. I am not really good at playing AV, but when IoC came in the Airship was meta and hangar is way closer to Horde fort. We discovered it on PTR and it continued to be the meta strategy for quite some time, but then hangar got nerfed and now docks are the new meta. Which are in turn closer to Alliance fort.
In my opinion battle grounds are fine. What needs to be changed are other things around PvP. If you want a better experience I can recommend trying to join some Rated BG group. You see real fast how on most of the maps the spawn doesnât really make or break the game, but instead the players on each team.
Battle for gilneas is alliance favoured, healers have room to kite in a proper fight at WW, and they have the option to interfere with hordeâs crossing to WW while horde canât do the same back. Getting mass rooted in the water is often a death sentence.
wsg - horde can easily get on our building and jump and again cover half map instantly
I honestly cannot remember the last time someone even attempted this, youâre over exaggerating to prove a point.
every dh that take flag
Why dont they disable glide in bgs is over my head.
Druids can fly the ramp and escape too. But not efficient like dhâs.
The added time to leave room, go out to ramp / GY, then double back on yourself to go to the top of tunnel, all the while being in range of dps outside tunnel, to try to gain a clean run of 100 yards whilst, again being in range of all casters on the enemy team?
Better off just going down ramp and moving forward, or going back down tunnel as far as time goes. Trying to glide off alliance ToT is inefficient, slow, and dangerous.
You can use distance / verticals to bait an enemy team to go ramp, but thatâs something very different, and itâs also doable regardless of which side of the map you are on.
well because most of time people are fighting at middle or near alliance side, they cannot take flag through graveyard, they cannot take it directly through main route, because it is too visible and dangerous and most of time people are fighting near hut, so the third way is blocked too, they can get through third way until half, go to terrace and fly over them, gliding over players is fast if you are dh, the only way how to stop them is to use stun
You can do the same with Horde side, maybe you get little longer glide on Alliance side, but again not by much. Team work is more important factor
actually not - horde side had thorns on their building - so it is extremely hard to get at highest point of it, alliance side had wooden beam, also alliance side building is little bigger and the beam outreach entrance - i htink there is a lamp hanging on it
Everything youâve said implies nobody is doing anything relevant to stop or position to capitalise on what the DH is doing, in the same amount of time he could also already be passed the zerk hut and to the half way line if heâd just gone straight, and with equally clueless opponents heâd be home free anyway.
you know i am talking about random battlegrounds right?
Yes, and doing something inefficient and slow for a flashy payoff against players who donât know their ear from their rectum, when youâd have gotten the same results if not better by just playing it simple, isnât worth complaining about.
It is quite literally impossible to balance random battlegrounds. There are just too many factors.
In competitive battlegrounds WSG is pretty balanced. I wouldnât see it as a hiderance if I spawned in Allied base.
I know this is a cheapshot, but strolling through your profile, you donât seem to be doing much PvP anyway. So maybe you should start from there instead of claiming that the maps are rigged against you. BTW you do know that you can Merc as Horde if you think Horde is so much better, right?