Im the same,i dont look the same way to the 2400+50 wins gladiators,but thats the reality we live into,and we all know that wont change.Wont change their reward distribution towards R1 player either.So atleast should have 2nd best achive goin together with unique and good looking mount.
But they changed before. So just as you said they changed the mount, they can also change how the mount is earned back.
Nah,that wont ever happen.Be real
Then the mount change will never happen either. Be real.
Well me and alot of Gladiator players atleast show and speak about it before Season 1 TWW starts,we can hope.
Like I said. I do not argue that you are not allowed to.
I argue that it should not include exaggeration, lying or demand based on “we deserve better” since thats just pure entitlement.
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Your perception of these mounts will change over time. So if you’re the guy who collects them every season you’ll probably end up liking it eventually. I remember people used to clown on those Cataclysm drakes back in the day after the armoured Netherdrakes and then the Frostwyrms, but nowadays a lot of people really like those Cataclysm drakes and they’re their favourite ones.
Worst case scenario you can find peace in remembering that they will never make a gladiator mount that is better than TBC S1, SL S1 or DF S1, so there’s no point whining and getting your hopes up!
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i honestly can’t believe, that pvp players choose a literal cosmetic to make a petition ina game that is filled with problems and bugs…
i think the real players are mostly gone, and we are left just with this kind of mentality
cosmetic over gameplay
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I also saw same thing in hunter forum. Class is full of problems yet section is full Sylvanas wannabes. People are too busy with their fantasies. Life has taught me not to expect too much rationality from average people.
The people who get Glad extremely easily with minimal effort are people who are going for more than glad, e.g pushing much higher ratings and R1. Most of those people don’t care much about either Glad or the title to begin with, for them it is a passive byproduct of playing.
Similar to how the 1800 elite transmog is a passive byproduct for Duelist and above players. Those people aren’t chasing that reward, they want more than it, because they are above that level regardless.
Unless they aren’t. Believe it or not, some people get it for the first time during some seasons. Up to that point, those people were previously Duelists, Rivals, etc.
Because it’s an achievement that takes tens of hours to complete? Multiple days, weeks or even months for some people? Would you like to invest such time for something mediocre and not even good?
You’re playing a game. You pay for it. You invest A LOT of time into it. A lot of stress, focus, emotions. And you do so if you believe the end goal will make you happy, or at least satisfied.
The majority doesn’t need to care. The PvP community is small as it is compared to the PvE one, and this subcommunity that cares about the Glad mount is even smaller. The point is, some people do care. So there is no reason to discredit the reason they care just because you don’t.
Rewards are what drive 90% of the people who play any kind of Rated PvP. Whether the reward is a mount, a transmog, an achievement, or even just reaching a new maximum rating or title, that’s why people play. Fun is usually only a byproduct if it fits the path to reaching the rewards. This is just part of a competitive mindset.
Pushing beyond 2400 doesn’t make you top of the crop. Numbers don’t matter, ranking does. Best I got last season in 3v3 was 2670, and that is still nowhere near being top of the crop or R1, because the cutoff was like 2900 or more.
This leads me back to one of my previous points about getting Gladiator. It’s not about having a team, it’s more about playing a meta comp and based on your skill level WHEN you play.
If you play for Gladiator in early season, it will feel like you’re playing at 3000 instead of 2400.
If you play for Gladiator in mid season, some games will feel like normal 2400 games and others will feel like 3000 games.
If you play for Gladiator in late season, 85% of games are completely winnable as long as you are playing a meta comp, as you are facing mostly other people playing a meta comp on your level. The other 15% are boosts, which are not unwinnable at all if you identify who the boosted person is and abuse their skill gap and play around the boosters trying to compensate it.
Mostly time. Barely anything else in the game requires high amount of effort + additional people to do it with for a prolonged amount of time.
Why? Because any PvE-related time investment is something which is repetitive. If you’re standing in the fire and die for the 11th time, that’s more of a brain gap than anything else.
PvP on the other hand keeps putting you against other players, human beings. You don’t know for sure if you’re going to suddenly get swapped as a kill target and die. You don’t know for sure what your enemies will do in every given moment. While Arena is in many ways scripted, it never gets even remotely close to PvE content in that regard.
That’s what I saw to a long time ago on reddit, shuffle one apparently was supposed to be a ground mount from what they said.
But tbh still it is trash, even vicious mount are more cool and different than this crap recolor you can get from doing quest usually.
Like said above it won’t help increasing 3s participation (especially if they keep this skin the entire xpac).
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Basically you dont even understand the point I tried to make.
Another point you dont seem to understand.
Which some ppl do even for other parts of the game. You are not unique.
Is it more DIFFICULT to get? Sure. But they dont work harder to get it compared to what other ppl work harder to get at other parts of the game.
And if you read I never discredited people for trying.
I told them to not exaggerate, lie or demand.
So dont try to make things up.
Did you just cut out what I said to talk about rewards in general when I said, if thats what fully drives ppl they could just… Add more rewards for 3v3 bracket? …
Its why I said the “top of the crop” is more the R1 players.
Thats up to debate. While PvE can alot of times be considered easier in terms of it being “scripted” it also has its skill lvl difference.
There is quite alot of players who cannot push in m+ simply because they are not good enough and refuse to learn from mistakes. The same way ppl are not that good in PvP and refuse to learn from mistakes.
PvP and PvE have things in common but also not at the same time. The few times ive actually played arenas ive had fun (the few times ive actually played with friends.) Used to play 5v5 which was interesting as the one who told ppl what to do.
I even used to play RBGs which was also fun but the guilds I used to play with died down.
There is ofcourse reasons why I have issues queing up with ppl I dont know.
Its not close to PvE in terms of the way its scripted. But if you are a PvPer that are playing at the top you usually know what to expect when you fight something.
Comes with experience. Same as everything.
Personally i disliked the game for some time and qued only to get +1 mount in collection. Tww is going to be trash as there are almost no fixes to design issues the game had in past years + last good thing about this game which are tmogs/mounts are also trash so i voted with wallet and I’m out. Its not like anyone would miss me but i recommend doing the same cos blizz desn’t deserve anyone playing their games cos their product is just terrible and low effort.
Only reason I didn’t quit is because after a long day at work some chill solo q bg/wpvp is gonna be fun. Not going to queue 3s at all though except friends asking to play which i doubt cuz no one is gonna even wanna push glad.
I would too if I had another mmo with pvp that I cared play, there are some mmo with similar but they dont interest me like wow. Theres not many choises and wow is still pretty unique on some of its aspects, will find something to do in tww but cant say much looking forward to the expansion either. It will mostly be just very casual content with solo bg and it will become boring in month or so and we have no options to go arena as it were before shuffle/solobg either so we will be stuck with this new solobg design for the entire expansion and play alone which is kinda counterintuitive for mmo.
its a highly prestige mount only very few people can get.
rewards dont work like this. If a mount is very rare and only a small percentage can get it, then it doesnt matter how much effort it took for someone to get it. Its still a prestige reward for a OBJECTEVILY hard to get reward.
what does player mentality have to do with the lazy glad mount reward?
then why even make rewards for exceptional players? Of course i personally dont care about the m+ or the mythic raid mounts but even I understand if players doing this content are upset if the reward is lazy and ugly and just an old model of an ugly mount.
??? what does that have to do with how the new mount looks? You can make a good mount that looks good and makes more players try to get glad which boosts participation AND also fix these issues? What are you even talking about. These are 2 different topics.
and some people think 1800 players deserve the glad mount but this has nothing to do with the topic. Its about the mount APPEARANCE not who should get it. You are so offtopic its insane.
in literally every single season the reward for getting gladiator was an amazing mount. 20 years in a row. We are talking about gladiator rewards not about r1 or anything else what are you even talking about.
And?
Yes rewards dont work like that. You get it for doing it, its that simple.
How easy it is for others and how hard it is for others dont matter.
That do not give you the right to demand amazing mounts every single time.
You cant read apparently.
And I already said I understand if glad players feel they want a better mount for their collection so they ask to change it.
I however do not agree with how they seem to exaggerate, lie or demand. Explained that quite alot of times in this thread.
You whine about participation and the mount will make it less.
I argued there are other parts of it that can be improved to increase it more than another, what is it? 0.5-1% who gets an amazing according to your standard mount?
When you bring up participation as reason for the mount to change. You also bring in other parts of discussion surrounding it.
Im offtopic? Damn, you dont even read what I write in general. You jump to conclusions quite fast. I answered someone else which you used as “fuel” to go full insanity on.
You do that quite often it seems. Quite self-centered.
Ive heard theres been times glad mounts was not amazing. But I guess thats all depending on your belief on whats amazing at this point.
Self-centered indeed.
In legion blizz wanted coursers to be glad mounts, then they jumped to infernals, and only after came with stormdragons, and they became a perfect deal
(htt ps://x.com/WarcraftDevs/status/723579148476682240)
Everyone has right to vote and express opinions, pvpers care and they change things sometimes
All gearing in df is a result of feedback and requests from pvp playerbase, and that was almost perfect from the view of many
Ps sry dont know how to insert links here
Atleast you provided something some ppl didnt xd
And I never said they were not allowed to do that… Yet again. Ill quote it.
And I already said I understand if glad players feel they want a better mount for their collection so they ask to change it.
I however do not agree with how they seem to exaggerate, lie or demand. Explained that quite alot of times in this thread.
Meaning if they ask to change it then thats perfectly fine.
Demanding it is just a form of entitlement.
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It’s not like demanding
Theres another brain status we have as pvpers, we fight for our prestige, through toxicity, through class disbalance, through boosters n carrys
To prove that we’re cool n skilled n edgy n you know what else
Glad mount is kind of pinnacle of our gameplay, and pvpers do exactly the same - we fight for a good mount
I perfectly believe that blizz would be agree on the topic, n will redo it if they see the feedback
The mount at its current state slipped through cause someone is too busy or smth