Currently almost all races give 1-2% dps buff. Yet undead’s Touch of the Grave gives whopping 0.12% dps increase. This is just unacceptable. Make it to the middle of the pack atleast, so i wont feel bad rolling an undead or vulpera character.
Sim (done as shadow priest but it does not matter):
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Earthen race got a passive DPS buff by next patch. How about buffing undead’s 0.12% dps racial and vulpera racial aswell (also give them some passive bonus!)?
Sure, I’ll trade you my Kul Tiran 1% DPS increase for your charm+fear+sleep trinket 
It does not stop humans from having 1.14% dps increase and 1.5 min stun removal trinket VS undead’s 0.12% dps and 2min fear removal trinket
Human racial is 3 min not 1.5 and only for stuns, Undead can break 3 different CCs and it’s 2 min.
The 1.5min you’re reffering to is when you have pvp trinket because they share cooldown, so yeah…
I can’t remember a raid fight where WotF had any use. So why balance their shadow racial around something you don’t use?
And if it’s for PvP, they could just tune it lower.
Well Played Wotlk and Now Cataclysm ~ where 50% of our raid grp are Trolls~
Imagine having a race where in some fights you could be 7% even 8+%(as Hunter) ~ (Remember troll race ??? berz+beastslaying+1% crit ) good times
Blizz plsss
dont understand your problem…close to everyone which plays serious is a dwarf or night elf
there are still other races?
This has been the case for a long while now, when i raided mythic i was usually the only undead in the raid
But thats not fair. Retail is famous for its “play what you want”, but 1-2% dps difference is really not that small. Vulpera racial also need to be looked at.
Meanwhile earthen race getting a passive DPS buff by next patch. How about buffing undead’s 0.12% dps racial aswell?
not only vulpera racial is bad - it’s “faux customizable” but the customization is hidden behind rare drops in legacy content. and again - you switch school of the spell and…
it’s just color??? like - I read the bag of tricks magic school is not affected by any talents. Not only it does negative dmg - it is not inflated by anything. You might think it’s good but the damage is so low it’s actually a legit DPS loss to press bag of tricks.
liek why? the undead at least has a passive dps here lol
Normal people don’t give a f about racials.
What are you on about, Vulpera has the worst offensive racial… throwing a vial for pathetic damage every 2 minutes.
Give me your Grave’s passive any day.
0.12% dps increase while almost all races have 1%-2% dps increase racials is almost like not an increase at all.
read again, dodo - vulpera (And lightforged) have dps loss racials if you press them. got it now?
I agree with OP’s suggestion.
And, can someone correct me if I am wrong: I believe Trolls’ 5% haste (was it called Berserker?) is even stronger than before due to changes how haste affects casting speed vs. how percentage increase of haste (such as bloodlust) affects casting speed, right?
Try to use brain before posting, green parsing monk. Bag of treats intended to be used when everything is on CD, some classes have those windows, then it is a dps increase. Small and crappy and deserved to be buffed/reworked, but nonetheless is a dps increase. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.
Undead’s 0.12% passive dps increase is closer to 0% dps increase than to 1-2% dps inrease what 90% of races have.
you parse green? huh, weird flex but ok.
whenever I checked sims for racials for pretty much any spec - vulpera and lightforged racials are below 0% into negative. You are doing some mental gymnastics and pretending it’s ever a dps increase to press a button that does less dps than your most basic filler spell and procs nothing.
You obviously main an undead and you try to play a victim card and while it’s actually canon for the undead to go hard into eternal victimhood, you are just being cringe.
Your forum character level must be your IQ score, Ai.
I added vulpera to thread name because they need passive dps increase racial aswell since almost all classes have it passive. Current bag of tricks is bad.
nice. thanks. uwu