Unfriendly and uninviting roleplayers

Hello,

I am writing this post from a place of genuine concern.
I have been casually roleplaying, mainly for fun on Argent Dawn for many years, but I have noticed a massive change in the culture recently which really hurts the community.

I had noticed that these days people seem to be far less open to walk ups and a lot of people tend to roleplay in whisper, which is fine, personally I would prefer that it wasn’t that way but it’s up to them at the end of the day.
What I find a lot harder to accept is the amount of people that seem completely entitled and unwilling to ever adapt to an ever changing scenario, even when they have listed their character as open and accepting of walk ups etc.

People I know are being placed on ignore for the first time in the history of the game, sometimes more than once, simply for not going along with the prompts or storyline that another player wants to create. It seems to happen a lot more commonly when a player tries to interact with a group or a guild that’s already got some kind of storyline going on. If you don’t want randoms to engage with your storyline, join a party, or say so within your MRP profile.

I’m writing this because I just had this exact experience. I tried to integrate myself into an unfolding situation with a guild in Stormwind, and it was going relatively well so far, people were interacting with me and expanding on the story with me semi-involved.

It was at this point I stood upon a bannister, and someone tried to /e “push me off”. I refused, and /e “held my ground and managed to keep balance”, only to be put on ignore and called a troll in /e in front of everyone there. That was it, no recourse and no fs given for the context of what actually happened

Not a big deal, just very irritating, and was wondering if anyone else had experienced anything like this

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This was honestly your first mistake.

A lot of guilds and groups in Stormwind tend to bubble themselves off and eventhough they say “Approachable” a lot of the time you’re not the kind of person they want to be approaching them so to speak iykyk.

I find this relatively happens a lot in Stormwind but I should honestly recommend that you check out other hubs and locations whilst Stormwind can be good for random generated RP or finding a group of friends / guilds that may interest you there is so much more in the outside world of the Alliance.

You could run by Duskwood, Up to Stromgarde and even Gilneas is getting traction once again.

There are plenty of locations to try out and I’m sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience.

Honestly this sounds about right again people will only look to do what they wish to do and make themselves look cool.

Do not let yourself get bummed out by a few MCS in SW or a minority of the many.

There is a lot to do both on Alliance and Horde side and if you need help feel free to ask! :slight_smile:

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Felentrick already covered most of it, but , sadly it is true.

There are some wonderful people on the server, but, especially in Stormwind, you have to wade through quite a bit of mud to find em. Cause ive been there too, with people just randomly logging if they didn’t get their way in rp, or slapped on ignore for the silliest of reasons.

I can only say, there’s indeed more than Stormwind out there and there’s also more than just those people out there :slight_smile:

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I had a warlock try to kill my town crier in whispers once in Stormwind. No /e emote. Just whispered me that he was draining my soul to kill my character.
In front of a crowd.

Basically trying to kill my character with no consequences to his.

Those were some fun times.
I don’t let such experiences slow me down, however. Someone getting upset is par of the course for random roleplay. You’ll have players do this every so often.

Just laugh it off, and move on. A character that rolls with the roleplay is silently respected more than the /e you are poopoo head ignored

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Ugh Alliance problems, don’t want to know :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

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It’s really nothing new, that behavior is as old as RP.

Some two years ago I had a random female night elf come up to me and emote “/e grabs Tontas and picks him up, carrying him out.” to which I responded something like “/e doesn’t get picked up, he’s wearing full suit of plate armor and is too heavy to be picked up”.

To which they likewise responded in emote that I’m a troll and that I’m now ignored. I happened to stop this giant growth main character godemoter’s fantasy and was obviously a horrible person for it.

Throughout the years I got walked through countless times because things like “you can’t block this doorway, anyone can enter”. It’s some sort of a powermove, why they didn’t just push my character or something I’ve no idea.

People have a set storyline in mind and are there to do just that and nothing else.

Those people always did and will exist. You don’t want to roleplay with them anyway, consider it a blessing that they stopped the experience early on.

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Lol wtf are people emoting in whispers for? That’s so bizarre

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This reminded me of the “door RP” type characters. Nothing caters to immersion quite so much as a human standing still in an open doorway, his TRP naming him simply as a Locked Door.

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What a beautiful concept, must be really engaging!

Peak roleplay.

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I have genuinely never noticed this before, where has this been occurring? At the very least most folk in RP hubs tend to emote on public channels rather than private ones.

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I thought whisper RP was done in The Place We Do Not Like.

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This is a sensitive topic, and while I don’t know your specific story and dynamics you were involved in, I have noticed this shift in the community as a whole as well.

A lot of “reasoning” I keep hearing to justify this behavior is:

  • “I have been roleplaying on AD for a long time…” (therefore why should I make the effort? If you want to RP, you adapt to me.)
  • “I just log on here for fun, it’s my subscription money” (but I take no accountability on how my behaviours impacts you)
  • “I have already established my friend group, can’t I just have fun with my friends?” (but why is the guild recruiting more, if you are unwilling to make them faces, instead of numbers in the guild)
  • “I have X years of experience on this, where is your resume on experience?” (used to dismiss your skillset or opportunities to prove yourself equally capable)
  • “People talk and I will hear about it” (so don’t you dare to criticise us to anyone, we will know!)

Which all are valid reasons in themselves, but they also are used to justify neglect, dismissive behaviors, playing favourites and manipulative acts. People are pleasant when they want something from you, but as soon as you become inconvenient, they will forget about you, unless you’re OOC friends with them. Guild membership is no longer a guarantee for RP and if it is, there will always be the “inner and outer circles”.

The only times I have seen a new person to “break into” cliques around GMs and offcers’s characters are when someone has created female character and romanced an officer. Usually leaping over all IC and OOC ranks, becoming an officer as soon as they become IC partners with the existing member of leadership. This is a huge red flag in itself, because it shows that the guild doesn’t value skillset and isn’t transparent on standards of promotions, but they purely place value on personal bias.

This can be a thing even outside Stormwind and southern Eastern Kingdoms. Night elf community for example, is notorious for “buying popularity through character art” which more often than not, portrays physical appeal. There is also a stark difference in how much your character will be approached (or asked for RP)/how much you are expected to take the initiative between male and female characters.
There is also huge weigh on social status, reputation and an unspoken rule that you are expected to show no emotion under any circumstances, unless people know you well and you hold esteem in the community. Otherwise, you are automatically seen as “making a big deal”, “not fitting in”, “drama”, “creating problems were none exist”, no matter how their OOC friends may treat you.

There is much of OOC backstabbing and excusing it with IC - people saying that they aren’t their characters, but they still aren’t transparent, because chances are, you’d not consent to your character being used and deceived, if they were transparent.

But be OOC friends with the right people, you can get away with jokes that are degradatory towards your creative outlet, be it threats of cutting your character’s limbs off (OOC, not IC) or making jokingly negative comments towards your artwork. As long as you can excuse it with a joke, you will be okay socially.

You are expected to read the room to excessive levels as a newcomer and grasp these unsaid rules. Nobody will tell if they have an issue with you to your face, because then they would be seen as a problem. Which then enables further talking behind peoples backs and gossip.

People also seek to influence each other a lot to ensure that you are available RP resource to them, but not to someone who could be seen as competition. Sometimes people launch negativity at you pre-emptively in order to stage you as emotionally reactive and influence people away from you, so they can cherrypick those whom they want to RP with. If you just want to focus on your RP, your peace, but have no friendgroup to rely on, it’s a tough social world on AD, sadly.

I’m not saying that all people on AD are like this, but it can take years to find a group of people who treat you with respect and they engage in emotionally intelligent, non-manipulative conversations with you OOC to ensure that IC will be mutually enjoyable. While many people recommend guilds for RP, sometimes the trick is to not join guilds and risk becoming a number, but focus on people who appreciate your character and respect you as the person behind them.

Don’t spend years jumping through hoops just to be treated as an equal to your peers in a guild!

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This is a situation as old as time, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen this exact scenario play out in Old Town in Stormwind.

Bring back Door RP

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POV: you’re a door and a roleplayer stands in front of you, you know somethings about to go down

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I see this as an absolute win. Gotta love it when problems solve themselves.

Its like any other content in wow, joining a good guild solves all the problems. In RP you just need officers that have enough social skills to manage set up cooperation with other guilds or who allow other members to help with that and boom. Now youre approached or approaching people with certificate of basic human person.

Also door RP is actually onto something. All the people standing around SW with “approachable” in their trp that never get approached, but you know what does get interactions? Door. How are you supposed to leave, enter or listen in on a conversation behind closed door without approaching and interacting with the door? Can you lockpick any other char? Well maybe a mechagnome but besides that, only the door provide engaging lockpicking RP. Maybe we were the crazy ones the whole time, the doors is the onky sane ones left!

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hahaha that made me laugh xD

I think that everyone else has said the critical parts. The only things I’d add are:

  1. If people don’t want you involved in their RP, that’s their loss. Move on. Nice people will engage with you, and the folk that don’t - well, that tells you everything you need to know.

  2. Random RP feels very… er… random to me. That is, it can vary hugely in quality from something epic that becomes a deep and abiding friendship, or it can be someone that makes your spleen hurt to talk to.

I’ll just finish by saying - good luck, and don’t give up hope! We are the change we want to see in the world, and we can improve things by being… well… better and kinder to each other.

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Lol wat? I never noticed this? And I have been in and out of the (Night Elf) RP community alot over the years!

Also don’t feel like Acrona, Lintian Meladriss, Ialluen or Brigita, etc. are popular due to their art but rather due to what they bring to the NElf RP community! Same goes for alot of Initiative takers not mentioned above in the NElf-scene!

So… Could you explain, if you want, ofcourse, because I might have missed this part of the NElf RP-community history? :thinking:

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