As much as I’d like to take credit for people chatting in instances, I have some doubts.
No it wasnt. It was you sitting in queue for 30 minutes then join dungeon, insntanly teported in, clear dungeon without single word, quit and be instanly teleport out.
Yeah except thats not how it works. Once RDF will be in the game everybody will just use RDF all the time. Becouse you know its way easyer to press 1 button than putting any effort into manualy creating your group.
Compared to now, where it’s LFG SPELLCLEAVE LFG SPELLCLEAVE LFG SPELLCLEAVE, run the same dungeon until cap and go again?
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The only dungeon I’ve done in Classic Wrath so far was Gnomer.
I was summoned in, cleared the dungeon without a single word and then left.
So, what you’re saying is, you want it to be tedious and “harder” for no actual gain? Which is ironically NOT what WotLK was - and this is WotLK classic. And to take it further, is exactly why people wanted original Classic. Imagine the backlash if they added RDF into Classic.
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I don’t enjoy the LFG tool, it could have been so much better. With that said, I have no issues getting groups together at all. Claiming it’s all spellcleaves and whatnot is just pure nonsense. I’ve done plenty of regular dungeons and it’s been very easy to get the groups going and people are social and friendly. I might be having a better time as a result of playing on the fresh server with so many people levelling.
Stopped reading after this. Made up “facts” once again.
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If spellcleave is more xp for per hour compared to random, I am sure people who wants to spellcleave are able to 
same goes for people who hate rfd.
If the majority of the playerbase truely hate RFD, dont use it and make your groups, shouldn’t be an issue, unless anti rfders only like to make their group when their option is the only one.
You should give up on thinking too if you aren’t going to read.
It’s definitely majority spellcleaves advertised in LFG
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Does whiny community can only operate on exaggerations? You won’t be taken seriously with such approach.
Boo hoo, EVERYONE will invite ONLY meta. NO ONE wants warrior in their party. People NEVER accepts me into party. Player ALWAYS go for best party.
It’s impressive how far you’ve managed to miss the point. RDF meant there was minimal room for meta play. EVERY spec got invited to a group as it was simplified down into roles, not specs. You’re saying we’re exaggerating and yet you’re simply ignoring the facts.
RDF meant you didn’t have to struggle to form a group if you wanted to play a spec you enjoyed.
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Don’t forget the usual taking 69 hours to form a dungeon group.
69 hours only? That’s improvement, I’ve heard without RDF I have to wait 2 months to form a group and another month to reach the dungeon.
I did multiple dungeons with all my chars by using new tool. I don’t remember forming group for longer than few minutes. Moreso, I’m pretty sure with RDF I would wait longer.
Yeah yeah, because RDF blocks people from forming full meta premade and then signing up. Minxmaxer will always find a way to minmax.
Look, I’m not saying no RDF is godsent thing, but arguments being pulled in are just straight stupid. The only logic argument you’ve posted is this one:
Which I agree with. Also, that DH who posts in every thread about RDF also brought up solid arguments in one post. So overall, I’m neutral on this change - only because I have no problem with either system and it won’t be my main activity. I used to play a lot M+ on retail with pug by playing non-meta specs and I don’t feel like lack of RDF is impacting my experience this much.
Yep becouse this is exactly how everybody plays right? Oh wait its not. Tipical. Oh look same 2 people spam /4 for spellcleave = everybody just spam /4 for spealcleave. Tipical exaggeration.
Yes I also just quest, doesn’t change the majority.
And that’s backwards, it’s hundreds of different people filling up spellcleave groups while regular groups are 1/2 people spamming.
Metaslaves will always meta - that’s fine and I agree with you. But the problem with this new tool is it’s incentivising the meta play because there’s no valid alternative option for efficiency. RDF used to be a great levelling tool because it would pull you from anywhere in the world, you could run a dungeon, you’d get a nice bonus at the end of it and then you’d be back where you was, continuing with questing.
A few things the new tool does that limits the variety and ‘effectiveness’ of other dungeons.
For example, the RDF tool forces you to travel the world. If you want to do a dungeon because of a quest you picked up, you now need to stop questing, stop gathering, stop whatever you’re doing and make the pilgramage. You then need to find 4 other people who are willing to do the same thing. As you said yourself, in this min maxer / efficiency mindset - people do not want to do it when the alternative is so transparent.
Why would I want to travel for 30-40 minutes to get into a dungeon to run it for a nice item when there’s a 50% XP buff, increasing the rewards from questing? Why would I want to try and form a group to do a dungeon when I can join one that can do it 2x / 3x faster? Why would I consider taking a shadow priest at level 28 when there’s 4 mages available and already outside the dungeon waiting?
RDF meant regardless of what you was doing, where you was and what your goals were. You could hop into a dungeon that had been already organised for you, run through the dungeon at whatever speed the group wanted (usually dictated by the tanks). And then get a nice item, a nice reward and a nice break from other things you was doing.
This new tool means you either join the spellcleave spam, you take a much longer time to form a group and travel to a dungeon you want to do instead, and have to stop what you’re doing in all forms to make it happen.
All of this for the facade that it’s a more ‘social’ experience. It’s not more social, it’s more tedious. It’s not as if when I join those groups I ask about their families and what they’re doing - and nobody else does. People want to level up and play the game, making friends is a byproduct it shouldn’t take away from the process.
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If they would add rdf into classic nobady would play it. Just like WOTLK would lsot majority of its classic audience if RDF would be implemented.
Talk about exaggerations …
Literally the only, ONLY argument, anti-rdf people have, is that it “killed wow” …
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This isn’t Classic anymore. Stop trying to ruin the experience for every other expansion. You had your time.
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