Forgot about another important, mortal strike. While usually in 3s its not that crucial since its assumed that you have one in your team, in 2s its essential
Also disagree about pets, felhunter dies to warriors and dhs very quickly too. In double melee lobby especially
But right now yes, destro is in general stronger than demo in shuffle and 3s
Destro has stun plus triple coil and more dmg, even if demo has 1 more cc destro is like 5x times better spec and lets not talk about affli
There was one season. S12 in MoP and next season they came back as always.
Wow bro, the same stun every other lock spec has, except demo has two additional stuns one of which is on short cd, off gcd and can be used while in CC
Your arguments make no sense, just stop
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No.
Sincerely,
Healers
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demo has 3 stuns, 2 instants 1 casted aoe stun, 1 that is usable while self on cc
desto / demo, not same
and other is dampen and control spec when other is big burst spec to do big burst
this how it always has been this how it always will be
demo+rdruid tbc says hello
all specs and classes have always played specific style how they are used in the match no matter the meta, ppl need to start use brain and recognize these and think the comps according and how they trying to play the match
like rm is the txt book of setup based comp that u play to control, sp+demo is the same etc
u dont play ww cos u want to livelord the match till its deep dampen u play it cos u want to burst on specific window as hard as u can trying find closing quick
Wow demo has a 2 min cd aditional stun that is a worse infernal woawy
Didnt know demo and affli had a huge aoe stun mb bro
Don’t forget the useless DS Talent.
They should buff Affliction. Remove Shadowbolt from Affliction, make Drain Soul filler and add malefic Grasp as replacement talent for Drain Soul.
Malefic Grasp replaces, Drain Life and Drain Soul. So all buffs towards those two spells getting combined into one.
Unless you have all dots up on all 3 enemies malefic rap deals laughable damage which is pretty sad considering you need to cast it
MG working like Drain Soul and Drain Life together could be great. ID and the new 10.0.7 talents could give MG a 45k tick.
well i tried, explained it as detail as i could the differences of specs
if some still refuses to not listen and believe destruction and demo is the same then i give up
u can ofc think whatever u please
Yes, they are different because destro is overtuned
You can have more cc but its useless when the other spec has 1 less stun but 5x more dmg.
There is a reason why demo was broken a few patches ago. It was because it had the dmg and the cc. Now destro has too much dmg which makes the one aditional cc useless
i wish i had played this broken demo
i did my climb on demo some weeks ago from now, after every nerf they put on lock in df, took me 2 days and 90 games for 60% win to hit 2.1 something
i played it on 3x melee lobbys too mostly
could say i know how to make demo work i guess
demo is control spec btw and destro is burst spec, also on comp based 2/3s where u go play demo its dampen spec and destro is the ww type nuke spec but as wizard if this helps
this post is the worst possible take btw
and if more people would think the same u would have 0 healers in the game
which would make i guess 5 less than now 
Lmao except all the cry babies got the tankiness nerfed. Goodluck trading anything when you have 2 ape melee sitting you
You don’t seem to understand that in terms of control there isn’t much difference between Dest and Demo.
Dest can get 3 men coils off while Demo can coil 1 target and additionally it just has 1 extra stun (not counting grimoire, thats worse than Infernal imo).
In terms of self-sustain, Demo is not better either.
And Dest does more damage due the way spec works.
Demo WAS the dampen, as it had access to Soul Link which Dest did not, thats gone now so it no longer is a dampen spec. It has the same tankiness, it does way less damage than Dest and its “goes” and probably the most unreliable and useless go in the game atm.
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you dont seem to understand what were said here to the guys struggling to grasp of their locks
i dont have troubles on understanding my classes, you on other hand seem to have trouble
as i looked you up it seems to be that ive done better on my lock than you have been able and with other classes too, so perhaps you need to rethink now who is the one not able to understand something
i have no troubles of gaining meager duelist as dps in ss or on my lock while you seem to have quite alot, i have no troubles taking duelist for seasons with anything i so desire, but you seem to have quite alot
conclusion you are the one who fails to understand
everything you need to know about warlock is explained here, best of luck
I dont have troubles with shuffle as dps, you have
I would rather say demo is a control spec and Affliction is the dampen spec. Destruction is all about big crits.
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Yep, your half right its control spec
If you take Demo+Rsham or Demo+Rdruid in 2s its dampen spec
If you take Demo+Frostmage+Rdruid into 3s its control grief your enemies to death spec 
Historically speaking tho demo is dampen spec, you play it in comps which is designed to last, tbc demo+rdruid example which doesnt end till someone leaves the round to go eat
and so on and so on
there are specific roles for every class and spec how theyre played in comps that is what we are trying to say here but some people keep failing understand cos they lack to understand something simple as concept of control and burst
I guess if we told them that one does not go play ww into arenas in mind to outlast till deep dampen, that they would understand as it is true. One goes arena as WW to burst as hard you can in specific window it setups
But if you say:
- Destro burst
- Demo Control
- Affli Rot
they dont understand they start to argue with everybody about the concept of specs they dont understand and start spilling out something nonsene
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