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Really, it’s just a matter of time at this point.

I guess we can’t -fully- blame Activision if practices like this were already in effect. They certainly didn’t help the situation though.

I am not going to lie, I would buy that.

Void effect for priest? Hell yea.
Nightmare druid effects? Hell yea.
Dark theme holy paladind spells? Hell yea.

I would go so far and even say if cross-faction chat was a thing to buy I would instantly buy it. Aswell as other races.

IF, and this is a big if, it were to ever be implimented then I’d say remove the subscription model. Have one or the other, don’t introduce both. That’s just beyond scummy.

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This company has no qualms at all about going beyon scummy. Just look at Blacks Ops 4, which now has a microtransaction system that would make free games go: “Wooaah there. Maybe tone it down a bit?”

#firebobbykotic

I really want to post how both Telaryn AND Levey are wrong (and right) with a mass of new Chronicle™ sources, but I’m away from the PC so [just trust me bro] will do.

Blood elves are still a people with different ideals and moralities. What might they subject themselves as a nation is different to what they accept as a people. Blood Knights being the best example: while the people shunned and spat, literally, on the dark methods employed by former priests, the nation sanctioned them and officialised them enough as to present them to the Horde as a ‘this is what we bring’ card.

In that regard, blood elves do have a history of pursuing dark roads—as long as they lead to results. Yet they stop as soon as their sense of being morally correct/justified fades. It is important to remember that culture and social mannerism don’t/cannot be excplicitly stated in the form of an encyclopedia. For that reason, we deduct from dialogue and interactions.

Overall, it is not out of character for Rommath to do his best in pushing away and eventually exiling Umbric’s cult—but certain members of the people (like, say, my elf) might have different takes on it. Not all Sunfury were evil, and the remnants were accepted back just fine despite waging war on Silvermoon with demons and fel. (-edit: this made it sound like I RP a Sunfury; its an example, not a case)

tl;dr: blood elf society is oppresive and there is no freedom of speech & mind, so you go along with what your leaders decide even though you might disagree

PS: blood elves are 100% not ok with fel and, in fact, it is not at all common/existent in Quel’Thalas. Take a look at the Spellbreaker Guide/Spellstealing and Mana Draining for references to that claim

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Want to hide your hat in SW:ToR? Pay up.

A nightmarish low water mark I pray to Mammon to spare us from in WoW.

Well, yeah, probably. It’s still my unpopular opinion that blood elves happily pursue power, do risky magics and have a history of using the Void prior to Rommath deciding to be a complete fool. Washing his hands of what Umbric does in exile and getting morally indignant is hypocrisy.

I wrote something above, but then rewrote it before posting it seems. Yes, you are entirely correct; it’s what I would (did?) call it. To put it plainly, it is entirely Thalassian to feel justified about doing something against your supposed morality because the world owes you, even though it is hypocritical. It’s why VElves using necromancy or similar methods is very suitable. Those methods, however, are left to the higher-ups, aka Rommath.

But that’s where the schism comes in, the ‘opinion’. For the matter, I share it. Factually, it cannot be proven for the simple fact that lore does not exist on it. The ‘Nation’ and ‘People’ as I put it are very different things in the extremely limited portrayal they’ve had. Quel’Thalas has a history of morally dubious practises historically, regardless of the fact that its people now condemn them (ie Kael’thas and his fel vision—the nation dabbled in fel, but the people would shun it)

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But that Stormwind Skychaser is pretty wizard.

Quite the Garroshian attitude you’ve got there.

On the subject, hypocrisy is very blood elven. So it all works out in the end.

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Sylvanas is still cool, the war is interesting, the raid (BfD) is super fun, BfA is a good expansion.

I love it. I actually love it, and am enjoying myself greatly. Yes, some things need to be redone or perhaps even just slightly adjusted, but it remains a great experience overall.

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It’s time to unplug this man… He’s been on life support of lies for too long. His mental state degraded far beyond what humankind can withstand.

Unplugs with teary eyes.

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The word you were looking for was ‘Elven’. Hypocrisy and ‘do as I say, not as I do’ seem to be a universal Elven trait.

Kaldorei: “Arcane is naughty, I don’t care that Dath’remar just saved our High Priestess EXILE THEM!”
Later on “Well, maybe Arcane -isn’t- so naughty, but only if, like, it is our Arcanists doing it, we’ll let the Highborne back in”
Later still “How do we know you won’t turn into Elisande! You do magic!” “Err, how do we know you won’t turn into Aszhara, Tyrande, I mean that’s quite the cult of personality you have going on there…”

Quel’dorei: "Take Sustenance from Living Creatures? What debased monsters you are, that is EVIL, EVIL I say! Go on Exile me. I’ll sit in Stormwind eating Steak…taking sustenance from living crea…oh, wait…

Sin’dorei: "Hey dudes, using Void Magic is totally not OK. You should like, use more friendly magics like Fel Magic, in fact you know what Get out, You’re Exiled. This is in no way what happened to our ancestors in a Microcosm, the Kaldorei are hypocrites, we’re umm…not…yes, definitely not.

Ren’dorei “Those fools, they do not understand we do what we must to protect Quel’thalas, but despite being in the Horde we have err, always had Alliance values, that we will stay very silent about, in fact completely silent, until we get kicked out. Oh, and Dar’khan Drathir had some good ideas, which we thought were worth following through on, because he was such a moral beacon of rectitude and din’ du nuffin’”

Hypocrisy, like cruelty tends to just be a -very- Elven trait.

Which is brilliant.

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Kinda different though, no?

Fel didn’t affect the Sunwell, while Void clearly did.

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That’s a tricky one, as technically they were not concurrent. The Fel Crystals were sent back to do the thing the Sunwell -did- till it was desecrated, which was ‘Keep the floaty buildings floating’, and by the time of WotLK when the Sunwell was reignited, the Belf’s binned all the Fel Crystals (Rommath was especially furious about it, as Kael’thas had tricked him into bringing them back to Azeroth)

Thing is, the Sunwell is a Magical portal. Its not that the Void Effected it. I mean our -characters- probably think it was, the -Lore- characters probably think it was, because Alleria+Sunwell equals horrible Void Nasties, but it wasn’t actually Alleria’s fault. It was nothing to do with the Void Magics within her, but more to do with the creature of the Void waiting to basically assassinate her on the other side of the Sunwell.

I do wonder some times how many ‘revolving doors’ BLizzard will write into Horde story. “Hmm, We need a nasty thing to manifest” “Hey, why not the Sunwell!” “Genius, we’ve not done that a few times too many!” “We need some angst to hammer home that the Horde is bad” “Hey, why not kill off the Warchief!” “Genius, we’ve not done that a few times too many!”

I mean Void is bad, but I think the irony of the Void Elves is whilst they studied it to protect Quel’thalas, what they did was just draw attention to it. So kinda…like the entire history of the Elves and Magic…

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Good point.

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Yes, they did right?! I’ve had this discussion with several people. Imo, the in-game representation of Silvermoon is faulty as the fel crystals hanging all over the place should be gone, should they not?

My unpopular opinion: Men/Women who are playing opposites are weirdos who probably shouldn’t be allowed to keep playing.

Basically you have dudes playing ladies, often for very poorly explained reasons, often the reason being “I find it gay to look at a male bum” in a crude way of expressing it.

However that is not a good explanation, because firstly: How does it make sense? Also last I checked, you look at the back, or not even look close at your character so you aren’t really “Looking at a male bum”. Secondly, if you find “That” gay, then you most certainly must be super hayetero to play as a girly woman.

And for ladies playing dudes, I can kind of understand why because they probably wish to avoid the hassle of dudes gawking over them.

Speaking of which: I think it is fair to say, that unless you are some gray neutral blob who reacts to everything in a similar fashion, a sort of preconception can form when you see a player character, which leads to a shock when you find out that Dude Mc’Dudeson is actually a lady, or vice versa.

And let’s not begin with people who play a female/male character, and then pretend that they are male/female… Worst excuse I got out of someone for this, was saying that they think Night Elves should be more agile, feral and feline-like, so the perfect way to present this, was a female character model playing as a male librarian in Stormwind… So much for feral, amirite?

Added annoyance: "Heter’o"sexuality is apparently a no-no. Great, Blizzard wants to get rid of straightness.

Wtf in ten

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