Also withou your sequence EVEN IF YOU CAN’T TRINKET BLIND you have 8+ 4 + 2 + 4 + 3 +8 = 29s, you said 45s, I want you to either show me 45 seconds of straight CC or admit your ominous lies.
Also, you can’t be sapped while in combat, so after those 14s just be in combat and gg no sap.
Also after that first sequence (that isn’t close to 45s) then the rogue won’t have Blind since it’s a 2min CD so you lose 8 more secs.
It looks like you just lie or exaggerate.
Get better. Get teammates around you to spot a Rogue. Get in combat so you can’t be sapped. Learn the game.
you goofball you can do another sapsequence the DR resets after stunblinds. Youre so clueless for a 2400 rated player jk you play pvetrinket rogue in 2s so you literally just pve.
And if you trinket the blind in a bg you just get bomb 1shot if youre not a 1m hp tank.
Kinjal im not here to argue with you, half your posts in rogue forums are about how all you do all day is camp low levels till they quit and spam sap grief people, you obviously have serious real life issues.
Moving on…
Also this proposed sap change would be better than the subterfuge change everyone wants for competitive arena too. You shouldnt instalose as a rogue because some1 randomly aoe’d you out, yet you shouldnt get completely free setup openers.
So making sap break stealth but keeping subterfuge (remove off vanish/shadowmeld) feels like it’d be a great balance change no? --> Remove off vanish meaning make subterfuge not proc while vanish buff is up, so if you want that subterfuge you have 2-3 sec of downtime/preplanning
Easy solution: don’t have a squishy guy carry the flag unescorted.
First off, NO. DRs are 20s. Double stun + Blind is 15s. But w.e.
Second : enter combat so it isn’t possible, maybe ? Call for help ? I mean you’ll get triple sapped into stun into Blind and you don’t have time to type “help, rogue bear FC” ? You serious right there ? Some kind of handicap maybe ? We never know.
I guess those 2600 ish in 3s the seasons I got that magically popped after I did some 2s. You’re very smart sir.
Yeah DRs are 20seconds, you take out those 15 (another sec if you wna add a cheap) you add mayby a garotte + autoapplied crippling poison and etc etc etc. And not to mention you can just invis/sprint alongside and repeat sap multiple times per run.
By the way I play rogue with a mage in BGs, please do tell people to trinket the blind. We blow up 800k hp tanks in a kidney bomb so do by all accounts trinket the blind.
Shadenox, blind clears dots. Imagine at every turn trying to be some snarky know it all yet always being too dumb for your own good
So what youre saying is you need to have multiple people run EXACTLY on top of the FC and instant aoe (hoping you even catch the rogue because sap range in retail LUL) to hope to catch the rogue AFTER hes already dumped 30sec of guaranteed CC beforehand, at which point all you get most likely is a (trinket) cloak vanish?
–> so all you need is 4-5 people doing nothing useful in a 10man bg and you might be able to stop 15 out of the 45seconds of unavoidable CC a rogue can land. Brilliant! Perfect class design! God forbid the enemy has actual humans playing too though.
But please enlighten us to the issue with a sap nerf, while keeping subterfuge (removed from smeld/during vanish buff)? You still get subterfuge openers in arena except you dont get the insane level of braindead free opener you do, and you still get some openers if randomly AoE’d (whereas with subterfuge removal you’d just lose).
Kinjal quote from rogue forums, second post on the forum:
– So do I still have you confused?
Also krieg I’m trying very hard to not be rude but what I said made perfect sense, its not my fault you speak broken 3rd grade english vastly subpar german standards so you dont fully understand sorry.
Ah yeah so you can only use Garrote if you have a 2 mins CD ready to justify your scenario. Cool. Very realistic then.
Btw I’m still waiting on the 45s total CC chain without counterplay. Mind actually answering that for real or will you keep dodging ?
No, just one with an AoE that’ll get him (Immolation aura, Frost Nova, Abomination, which spots stealthers from mega far btw, or even an other rogue who FoKs from stealth, works 100% of the time)… no need to be stupid, be efficient, it works better.
No no, I mean you spot him on the very first resap, so after 8 (EIGHT) seconds of CC, not 30. You know, first sap, 8, then when he wants to resap you get him out. Be smart pls.
No bro, alot of people dont. I dont, alot of people wont attack me if i walk past them while lower level.
Though i figured you would based on your personality of making ‘‘gladiator’’ i470 premades to curbstomp random nongroups in bgs for some weird egotrip.
Then tell me , I dont do dungeons to level up my allied races. I queue bg to level up , and questing while waiting bg queue.
Why am I dying 4 times every 1 hour when leveling my allied races? When I’m 38 level they kill me 1 shot and this happens 4 times every 1 hour.
Rogue should never be nerfed. A lot of people complain their stuns , loc effects. Do you know it was the only original stun spec when wow came out?
Complain about other classes instead.
About this case , I dont know how many times I can repeat , I invite people with exp, 432 ilvl gladiator too. I dont care ilvls. For me exp of pvp important.
My 405 ilvl disc priest friend in my premade makes 8000k+ healing on random bgs with 405 ilvl. Because he has exp.
You repeat stuff again and again.
Ilvl is nothing for me when I invite people to group.
Rogue should never be nerfed. You can give more buffs on stuns instead.
What solid argument? Blizz not going to revert it? Hell theyre incompetent obv they wont, theyve leaked players for years (and esp pvp interest) for a good reason.
Aside from that nothing you said was an argument, and that post is exactly how i interpret it. You take out your RL issues on low levels, its a good vent for you, own it. Dont hide from it. It is who you are, no need to be shamed of it. Why suddenly pretend to be something youre not because youre not gigling with other rogues about camping people but talking to normal humans?
