So… did I get that right? Uther is repaired, by being confronted with his memories, and that’s when the Kyrians, who spent eons contemplating “the path” first come across the idea that memories might be a part of our identity that contributes to our morality?
They can tell Morgraine that he wouldn’t fit a place of forgetting, they can have an all-out war with people who reject their teaching… but Uther telling them that he would like to keep his memories, pretty please, is what getts their noggin joggin’?
It’s official, Bastion is the afterlife for idiots. Or at least idiots only.
Edit:
Oh, I got it! It’s a critique of the education system! Only the most educated people could believe something so stupid!
I mean, they are not really idiots, just thoughtlessly devoted to the path. As you said, they lose their memories and devote themselves fully to the ways of the Kyrian. Without said memories, there was no real reason for any ascended to question the path. Their minds are shaped to serve an unchanging eternity, so of course change would not emerge from them.
Remember that all of this occured because of the Jailer’s influence on Azeroth and the Shadowlands, causing Uther his injury, the anima drought and Devos to turn to the Mawsworn. This is the first time the eternal, unchanging path of the Kyrian encountered such change, which is what spurred them onto changing that path.
At which point they thouhtlessly follow thereafter.
Because, as said before, they thoughtlessly follow the path and view reluctance to have ones memories remove as a necesarry trial to overcome, that a person will be better to overcome. This worked, for eons, and the Kyrian saw no reason to change it. Secretely, however discontent towards this process was amassing underneath, until it lead to a civil war, Uther being the catalyst. They have never had to consider change until now.
The Kyrian were already considering change during the war, due to their changing circumstances. As the conflict had largely started because of Uther, the Kyrian viewed him as important. Kyrestria has dismissed Devos when she first tried to warn her about Uther, and all of Bastion suffered for it. This is her listening. Because of how he had been affected by the power of the Maw, he was unable to follow the path, illustrating the Arbiter’s fallibility, and thus that the Path was imperfect. His testimony, his regret of how he treated Arthas, gave them an idea for how to create a better future.
It’s not jsut Uther. It is all of the Forsworn. It is just that he was willing to work with the Kyrian to make things better.
They didn’t exactly explain themselves back then, so there was always room for “their ways are too wise for you to comprehend”-explanation. I mean, they supposedly thought about that stuff for millenia. Every single one of them. They should be better at it than we are.
It is the frank and outright reluctance that blindsided me most of all. This is why despite loving a lot of Bastion’s aesthetics (come on, angelic robots? heck yeah!), I can’t really support nor feel remotely sympathetic to Kyrestia’s or the current narrative’s reasoning.
It just feels everywhere, and whilst they are ‘now’ on the change, I can’t shake that annoying feeling that this could have happened much, much earlier if one is to believe there is a hint of competency to it all.
Kyrestia not being able to dodge a truck if it comes at her at a snail’s pace aside…
That’s where unqestionable loyalty comes into the play. Being blindly obidient and loyal was one of their culture pillars. With there being whole temple dedicated to it. There was no reason to question it when it all worked.
After it broke, they did. Nicolon (or Nicolas?), when spoken to during the celebration, said that it was when he had to dump into the Maw a hero who died fighting demons on her homeworld that he joined the Foresworn.
So as mentioned before, while they might have some inner doubts none have questioned their ways before the mess began.
Archon being stuck in her ways, even when confronted with a proof (Uther) that the Patch is flawed was the final straw to some. Even Primus when you turn in the quest says (more or less) that for eternal beings like her it can be hard to change but is glad she did.