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Yeah I forsee very similar happening.
I think the only thing we can typify about the Light is that “it” (whatever it is) believes it alone is the only “truth” in the universe and thus seeks to bring everything into itself (which it sees as good, because then there would be no conflict by definition, but similarly there would be no choice or individuality either).
Similarly the Void is “evil” only in so much as it contradicts the Light’s universal view and suggests that truth is not necessarily an objective thing found in a single place.
This “one way, the only way” is part of way I figure the Lightforging process makes LFD stronger and overall better soldiers than normal Draenei. It’s nothing to do with giving them super muscles outright or the like. They’re literally flooded with Light which causes them to fixate only on sheer belief of their own cause- which means stuff like doubt, worry etc. fall on the wayside which makes them extremely effectively soldiers. The other consequence of this is because the light gives more juice the more certain someone is- it also makes them ridiculously strong because it runs through their bodies and they are incapable of doubting their own cause.
I appreciate this is me “plugging the gaps” though, but it does make for an interesting potential shadow to the Light if we view it as a possible enemy of freedom and choice in this way. It certainly does make sense for “guaranteeing the peace” however because a surefire way to do that is to erase all potential for conflict by forcing everyone to think in exactly the same way.
If it truely believes that then one is better off siding with the void that allows several truths than just the light that allows one. But that is just assumption at this point. Both forces are corrupting and one requires the other.
The void at least gave us free will with the curse of flesh. So that we are easier to corrupt (on the other hand they could corrupt ra-den or other keepers so a huge meh from me there) but free will regardless.
As of right now i will continue to side with daddy zoth rather than the light.
I think that’s basically saying “you, Devos, will abandon this cause” not whatever you want it to mean. As for what happened from their side, we only see Devos’ screwup now, we don’t know how it would have turned out if she just listened.
Also i don’t know what you expect to see when saying she wasn’t bothered or go into alarm mode, should she start running around in panic, bite her nails? Probably not in her character.
Same goes for you. Lets agree to disagree here.
They could have still investigated and tell oribos. The machine of death didnt break until between the start of the Legions third invasion and the death of Argus.
No. But have Oribos in the very least investigate the matter. The blade had been broken aye, the helm had not been. They could have investigated what happened on azeroth and after finding out who Bolvar is try to talk with him. And as i said the Deathlord reforged Frostmourne, a weapon forged in the Maw that wields the power of the Maw during Legion.
And so we go back to the massively biblical undertones of the whole thing. The price of freedom is sin (or in this case, the potential wickedness of the Void if you use it the wrong way) whereas complete peace requires total obedience so as to make your free will irrelevant.
I suspect this matter will come up in the probable Light vs Void expo, questions like “is The Good really good if it’s not chosen?” and “Is freedom a good on it’s own?”. Can’t wait. I’m a sucker for grandiose religious mythology.
Just have the void lords corrupt everything then. Free will was just a side effect as to corrupt us easier. Alas who knows what the Old Gods think since they are not exactly void lords. The void lords in the very least however want to control/corrupt/devour everything so that would also ultimately cause “peace”.
Ye same
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Guys, you have to realize that the lore doesn’t exist to tie the hands of the writers. Today, Uther may be split in 2 ghosts but tomorrow, we may find out he was actually split in 15, half of which went to a parallel universe.
Point is, don’t question the interns.
Yes I think they were, at least until Frostmourne was shattered? I know we didn’t see his souls merge in the cinematic, but maybe they did and that’s why he’s able to know in the beta that what they did wasn’t justice, but vengeance.
I mean maybe not, but what else coud happen to the other Uther’s soul, that was in the Frostmourne? I suppose it’s not just gallivanting over Azeroth.
Same goes for me what? i’m telling you what the words mean, it’s not my interpretation.
And again, we don’t see the repercussions of a lack of investigation here, if any of what you say here would have many any difference or not is irrelevant as long as Devos went on to disobey her orders.
And what does 2020 mean? That we have found the definition of existence and unlocked the secrets of the Universe?
Last time I checked, science had explained how the various elements of the Universe function (such as the orbit of the planets, the various astral explosions, et cetera), and had discovered the materials of which all around us is made. But I don’t recall science giving the answer to WHY the entirety of the Cosmos exists. What is the Purpose of existence? Is it just…random? Did everything that is just “poof” into existence by themselves with no actual reason?
It is foolish and arrogant to believe that you can explain all of this, even if the year is “2020”. I don’t understand why it is considered progressive to deny every possibility of a Purpose, a Reason being behind all of Creation. Basically, I do, it’s because the concept of God and the Afterlife is unsettling to those who want to live biologically, just like animals, and do not realize (or don’t want to) that mankind is more special than any other living form and is destined for spirituality. In order to find alternatives to God, you may as well tell us that we owe our existence and minds to alien laboratories, or the Americans, to make it sound more Hollywood-ish.
It is just useless to search these matters, for the answers to our questions will never come from our restricted perceptions. There are strong arguements for both sides, do not presume you can be certain to decide which one is the truest. That is what arrogance means.
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It means 2020 is so bad that we can legitimately start questionning if existence is worth the suffering.
The worth of existence depends on your own “cosmology map”. If non-existence is all that awaits you in the end, you might as well end it right here and right now, since it is the inevitable. But there are other prespectives of existence, prespectives that spark hope to us all.
As for this terrible year, I am sad to inform you that you may have seen nothing yet, as the most terrible events of 2020 will most likely be linked to the upcoming election and possible civil war in the U.S., that will spark many wars throughout the globe, since the meddling superpower will not be able to interfere.
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