I get that the group healing was too much, but now shadow priest is just awful solo.
We kill slowly compared to other classes and take more damage for that reason. Vampiric embrace helped to compensate for that. With just 4% i can’t even survive the Avalon caster mobs 1:1.
Shadow priest can’t heal in shadow form and also T3 and the new T3,5 are full of +shadow damage. So healing costs a lot of mana and is ineffective. Farming in Avalon right now feels really bad.
Why not this?
Vampiric Emcrace - heals the shadow priest for 10% of the damage
Improved Vampiric Embrace - heals the shadow priest and his group for 2% of the damage
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yeah good idea, now outside raid we have no survivability, gg on pvp world we are paper
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Full agreed, the self-heal gut was way overshot.
Alternatively blizz could nerf warlock and tank paladin/shaman self healing by 80% too, while they’re at it.
Yeah tank warlocks can self heal + life tap with no issue, but spriest, oh no lets nerf their survibility to the ground… Zirene this is awful…
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True i dont play sp but tha nerf was uncalled for… i mean if u want to nerf the healin on raids just do that , make it that when inside a raid-dungeon vamp embrace heal for less.
it totaly ruined sp for pvp and solo grind
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they already nerfed paladin and shaman healing, several phases ago.
if you are not 30 points into the resto tree as shaman, you have no healing.
they also took healing wave off of maelstrom AND removed +healing bonus from mental dexterity rune (at the same time btw).
they also nerfed non-holy paladin heals significantly a long time back but i’m not sure as to how much.
maybe you should play the classes before you open your mouth about how good they are at doing something, jesus.
you are literally going “wuaaah i was nerfed, so nerf the other guys too wuaaah” instead of advocating to have the nerf reverted, having other classes nerfed further will make you happy?
shut up you god damn baby.
shadowpriests were literally healing the same if not more than actual healers PASSIVELY while doing some of the best dps of any class in the game.
Lmao triggered much?
So you’re saying, that shaman tanks, can tank infinite amounts of mobs without needing a healer (albeit with some kiting too but still), without even being in tank spec?
Oh yeah shaman tanks seem way less op now, thanks for the the clarification.
shaman tanks will need a healer, yes.
unless they run the cheese pvp spec that everyone is mad about.
and if they do that, they will not be able to tank and kill mobs properly.
you literally have no idea what you are talking about.
you saw a couple of shamans cheese in pvp and you think that applies to pve?
ok, go make a shaman and show me how its done.
and yes, i am triggered cus you are obviously clueless mono-class andy.
I agree for the most part.
I understand that a nerf to the raid healing was needed but the amount with which they nerfed it was overkill.
On top of that it got nerfed with another roughly 50% today, now that it can not crit anymore.
But still, we are a dps spec so i personally do not feel too bad about not healing the raid.
What i do care about is self healing, specially when farming solo.
While some other classes can easely farm Strat live and ZG trash solo (namely shamans, provided they have a clue what they are doing) we now struggle to kill the casters in new avalon.
having to pop out of shadow form to cast a few heals between mobs is not horrible but it is bloody annoying and costly mana wise.
It’s just not fun gameplay.
if you add to that the fact that in the current sims “stand still and cast 3 full mindflays” is going to be the new playstyle I am not looking forward to playing as much anymore.
Was watching a Xar stream yesterday and they said that they reverted the nerf…not sure though didnt see anything from blizz
They undid it mostly to how it was but now it cannot crit, it also healing the priest double the amount as of the how much healing 1 player get from it in your group
Ohh crit nerf is huge… used to have an OP synergy with surge of light and everytime vamp healing crited you had instant flash of light as shadow for pvp. Rip
Oh really, I dident know that, but I am not a pvper myself so, that sounds kinda OP haha 
If you wanna read the changes they are doing you can find it here: (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/scarlet-enclave-trash-mob-health-reduction-and-boss-adjustments-season-of-376335?utm_source=discord-webhook)
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8% is still not much conisdering we come from 15% and get the crit nerf. They should triple or quadruple the selfheal.
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What I understand they gonna do this on next restart.
(https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/rune-and-tier-set-adjustments-season-of-discovery-phase-8-hotfixes-376331?utm_source=discord-webhook)
It’s live. Just tested it, it heals exactly for 8%.
well that S*cks.
here’s to hoping they will turn the self heals up a bit more.
Make it 20%… theese guys cant even farm anymore