Varian vs. Anduin

This is not a battle of physical strength (as we all know who would win), rather I am asking you who do you think led Stormwind more competently and wisely:

  • Varian was King from WotLK to WoD: he led the fight against the Lich King, Deathwing, the Horde, Garrosh, and the Iron Horde.

  • Anduin is King from Legion to Shadowlands (though Turalyon currently serves as Regent): he led the fight against the Legion invasion, the Horde during the Fourth War, and finally N’Zoth. Now he will lead the charge against the Jailer. His reign as King is technically not over yet, regardless I believe enough time has passed to form a concrete judgement on his leadership skills.

As for myself, I found Varian more decisive and cunning than Anduin, he was also very wise not to crush the Horde after SoO (as Saurfang acknowledged in A Good War). However I also want to commend Anduin because, despite his young age, he kept the Alliance together and protected Stormwind during the apocalyptic Third Legion Invasion, as well as during the chaos that was the Fourth War. He also significantly bolstered the ranks of the Alliance with the allied races.

Are you satisfied with Anduin as King of Stormwind and military leader of the Alliance, or do you lament the days when Varian was King?

I don’t think Anduin is even half the King Varian was. I do kind of like that they stuck to his somewhat wishy washy pacifist nature but as the rule of the kingdoms he just seems to fall short.

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As a hardcore Horde player, I liked and respected Varian. Honestly his death gutted me as much as Vol’jins, even went to Wrynfall to pay my respects. Anduin on other hand is so unlikable to me. I avoided spoiling myself for shadowlands, I honestly hope he stays in whatever hell those birds dragged him into.

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Anduin is a mix of his Parents

Bravery of his Dad and kindness of his mother.

Unfortunately the Kindness part can overlap with the bravery, especially in war scenes which may make him seem weak.

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Isn’t it obvious?..

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I could not have said it better myself.

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Anduin is the most unsure of himself person to exist in this game.

He’s like the random guy who lied in his resume and now suddenly is offered a senior level job and doesn’t know what to do with it.

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Anduin has quite a few years to go before he’ll be as competent as Varian. But I will say he had a good influence on Varian and made him a better leader.

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It’s a bit hard to compare them, as they’re quite different in almost every regard. Varian was a hardened veteran of many wars, and had had a lot of experience needed to be a successful ruler, while Anduin’s young, relatively inexperienced and is still developing himself both as a king and as a person.

Regardless, for now I’ll say that Varian is the greater leader of the two, but I look forward to seeing what kind of leader Anduin will turn into.

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Varian was a legend and simply kicked backside. Anduin is a fundamentally flawed character which for me is quite refreshing. In a world of OP Sylvanus, Tyrande and others its nice to see a character who is messed up a bit and unsure about himself.

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Lmao Varian was a true King. Anduin is just meh. Also techically he didnt do sh*t about Nzoth because he didnt know what to do. Wrathion and Magni led us against Nzoth. In WotlK, although Tirion was the main good guy, we still felt like we were soldiers following Varian’s command. Cataclysm also a bit. Pandaria and WoD totally. Throughout Anduin’s reign, we were led to Stormheim by Genn and it was Genn who led us, really. In BFA, well, in BFA they slaughtered every last one of the characters, and Anduin was one of them. If they turned him a bit in to Manduin we could have felt like he was our king, but that didnt happen and personally I felt like he was just a little kid we needed to protect, rather than our leader who would lead us to victory.

He did help Saurfang which was the right thing to do, but overall does he even know what he is doing? I watched an expansion trailer of my King crying. I have mixed fillings about that :rofl:

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Well, we were spoiled in the son of the wolf comic that he will remain high king for a very long time, so there is room for him to get better at being a king but right now i say Varian was better and it’s not even close.

Anduin has no experience in anything other than diplomacy. Most of the time he doesn’t know what to do and always doubts himself. As Varian said in the Legion cinematic, it’s good to aim for peace, but he needs the will to fight in order to achieve and maintain it, which he lacks. He needs to be a lot more confident and know and accept when the only option is to fight. If not for Jaina, they would’ve died in the throne room in Lordaeron because he still wanted to talk to Sylvanas after she burnt Teldrassil. He has to be more experienced and wise in order to be a good king, he is very far from that.

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Varian was highly overrated.

Instead of making him an interesting character in-game, they instead shoved him into our faces as the Alliance warmongerer which didn’t pan as they wanted so they opted to make Garrosh unhinged, Jaina unhinged, Tyrande the 10000 warlord to be incapable of guerilla warfare and frame the dwarven leaders as incompetent because they hadn’t resolved an ongoing sivil war yet…

Oh and he was blessed by a wolf god for some reason.

And seriously, why does the alliance leaders cosisting of three ten thousand year old rulers and a bunch of other seniors, just hand what is suppose to be the highest position in the Alliance to a gladiator and a kid…

I think its hard to compare them, they both have much different ways of ruling. Anduin seems to be a much more peaceful person and wants to try and go for the more pacifistic approach. Varian was a lot more aggressive I feel

Tyrande.
#10chars

He was blessed by a wolf god because his benevolence, courage and seldomness was like that very wolf god yet your people only got the curse out of it, a coward behind his wall and finally getting owned remain a coward.

S*cks being you Gilnean.

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I’d say he’s not even a quarter, but then he needs to be a gnome.

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Insert upgrade —> G9 back meme here.

On a more serious tone, yes, Anduin is just such a naive kid, hence why he’s completely incompetent as a leader.

Varian.
The whole point of Anduins story is he is a young and inexperienced King trying to mature with the aid of Greymane, trying to live up to his fathers words and legacy.

With that said you’re comparing a king of many years to a new king. It’s not really a fair comparison to try and make right now.

I welcome horde to finish Anduin, send him to death at sight, as well as his father.

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